First off, he needs to understand that if you were to accept him back at this point it would be out of fear and pity for him and not because you want to. Meaning that what you're giving him is fake and not genuine. Which will lead to you being unhappy which should lead him to being unhappy. So in the end no matter what you do he's gonna be pissy about the result. However, doing the above is obviously a long-term destructive. By you no longer being in his life he'll one day eventually just look at it and think to himself, "She doesn't have the same feelings back, and I can't change that." Maybe you giving him one explanation, explaining all of this and how he has other people he needs to live for and not you and that if he continues you will be sad in life and if he matures and moves on both of you can be better.
Now yes, with the threat of him hurting himself you should definitely notify the principal and he should notify the parents. Because this isn't a you thing. It's a him thing. He obviously has a problem with how he deals with other people and his emotions. So this can and will happen with someone else he deals with in the future unless the people that surround him are aware and help him from doing that. Ya feel me?
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Aug 22, 2013 9:53 PM #1072120
Aug 22, 2013 10:02 PM #1072123
I pretty much agree with what everyone has said. He cant change the fact that you dont like him. I used to be like the way he was acting, to an extent. I never threatened to kill myself nor did i make it seem like i was going to hurt them. However, i did always act real upset after breakups. Then one day i realized it would get me nowhere. And i started to respect their decisions.
Now, a few things. If you care about him and he knows it, then killing himself kind of in a sense shows he doesnt care for you. Because hes putting you through the burden of being the reason he ended it.
That being said, if he has any care for you he will eventually get over it. I do recommend you talk to the principal like the others said though. He needs some help up there.
Now, a few things. If you care about him and he knows it, then killing himself kind of in a sense shows he doesnt care for you. Because hes putting you through the burden of being the reason he ended it.
That being said, if he has any care for you he will eventually get over it. I do recommend you talk to the principal like the others said though. He needs some help up there.
Aug 22, 2013 10:04 PM #1072124
Do universities have "principals" in America? Because they don't in Britain, and I wouldn't expect them to in Chile. If something like that happened here I don't think there's anyone who could get the contact details for their parents, short of the police. Legally he's an adult anyway (if university is the same age group there) so no one else can take responsibility for him.
Aug 22, 2013 10:09 PM #1072127
Its been said, but get in touch with some kind of counseling service that your uni should have. Its very likely this situation has happened before and they can give you the best advice or they will have the contacts to help you out.
I also suggest putting the campus security's phone number onto speed dial or something, while also trying to surround yourself with as many people from your class/other classes just so he doesn't have a chance to approach you when your alone. This also goes for travelling between uni and home.
If nothing works you might have to go on break from a semester or two just so when you come back you'll be at a different stage of your course and should be able to avoid him.
I also suggest putting the campus security's phone number onto speed dial or something, while also trying to surround yourself with as many people from your class/other classes just so he doesn't have a chance to approach you when your alone. This also goes for travelling between uni and home.
If nothing works you might have to go on break from a semester or two just so when you come back you'll be at a different stage of your course and should be able to avoid him.
Aug 22, 2013 10:11 PM #1072129
Quote from ZedDo universities have "principals" in America? Because they don't in Britain, and I wouldn't expect them to in Chile. If something like that happened here I don't think there's anyone who could get the contact details for their parents, short of the police. Legally he's an adult anyway (if university is the same age group there) so no one else can take responsibility for him.
Pretty sure they have Deans here. Which is why I, as an alternative, suggested something like a Guidance Counselor, or school psychiatrsit/psychologist, whichever.
Aug 22, 2013 10:15 PM #1072133
WHY THE FUCK DONT YOU LIKE ME!? I TRIED EVERYTHING I COULD TO MAKE YOU HAPPY AND HAVE FUN WITH ME AND EVEN JOINED THIS FORUM AND BECAME A MOD TO TALK TO YOU IN THE CAMILA COVE SO YOU WOULD NOTICE ME AND THE THINGS I DO FOR YOU! STOP PUTTING UP WITH THESE SUICIDAL KIDS AND HANG OUT WITH MEEEEE!!!
Now that that's out of the way I can actually give you a serious response :D
This honestly takes me back to ninth grade when I came back to public school after three years of private schooling. I was socially deprived and awkward, so that made shit bad. The first person to really talk to me was this girl that rode my bus and was in one of my classes. Since she was really the first person to give me attention, I confused it with the thought of her actually liking me because she gave me attention. I was too inexperienced to think otherwise, and too young to understand anything else. Long story short I basically tries transforming myself into someone that she would find appealing and because super stalker level until halfway through my tenth grade year when I just sorta moved on and started dating someone else. If you can, you should explain this to him, or send him a private message and link him to this post so he can see. Girls typically take depression as a turn off, and they don't like it when they feel like a guy is up their ass 24/7. I'm sure any of the ladies here will admit that they enjoy being with their boyfriend but they also enjoy having personal time and enjoy it when they have personal time. Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. Since you said that you did like him, that means he honestly stood somewhat of a chance with you, but because of his desperation, you realized the kind of person he is and now you want no parts with him. He has to understand how all of this works and how the best thing for him to do is to talk to people and maybe just stay with being friends with people for a while to work on his social skills before he considers being in a relationship with someone else. That's the best thing for him to do. However since there is actually a risk of him being mentally disabled to some degree since he tried to kill himself out of "depression". I think it is beneficial to inform the proper authorities in this situation since you come off as feeling anxious about being in the same room with him. This doesn't mean you have to call the fuzz. You should be vigilant and taken precautions for your own safety. I'm not saying he's going to go crazy or anything, but people are pretty fucking crazy sometimes. This will more than likely blow over in a few months. The best thing you can do is not communicate with him anymore than you need too. Honestly it might not hurt to talk to him some to keep him happy and keep him from some self loathing for fucking shit up with you, but at every opportunity you should reiterate that you guys are just "friends" and will remain just "friends". If you do decide to do this it would probably be beneficial to tell him that if he isn't play with this then you have to intentions of being friends.
Good luck!
Now that that's out of the way I can actually give you a serious response :D
This honestly takes me back to ninth grade when I came back to public school after three years of private schooling. I was socially deprived and awkward, so that made shit bad. The first person to really talk to me was this girl that rode my bus and was in one of my classes. Since she was really the first person to give me attention, I confused it with the thought of her actually liking me because she gave me attention. I was too inexperienced to think otherwise, and too young to understand anything else. Long story short I basically tries transforming myself into someone that she would find appealing and because super stalker level until halfway through my tenth grade year when I just sorta moved on and started dating someone else. If you can, you should explain this to him, or send him a private message and link him to this post so he can see. Girls typically take depression as a turn off, and they don't like it when they feel like a guy is up their ass 24/7. I'm sure any of the ladies here will admit that they enjoy being with their boyfriend but they also enjoy having personal time and enjoy it when they have personal time. Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. Since you said that you did like him, that means he honestly stood somewhat of a chance with you, but because of his desperation, you realized the kind of person he is and now you want no parts with him. He has to understand how all of this works and how the best thing for him to do is to talk to people and maybe just stay with being friends with people for a while to work on his social skills before he considers being in a relationship with someone else. That's the best thing for him to do. However since there is actually a risk of him being mentally disabled to some degree since he tried to kill himself out of "depression". I think it is beneficial to inform the proper authorities in this situation since you come off as feeling anxious about being in the same room with him. This doesn't mean you have to call the fuzz. You should be vigilant and taken precautions for your own safety. I'm not saying he's going to go crazy or anything, but people are pretty fucking crazy sometimes. This will more than likely blow over in a few months. The best thing you can do is not communicate with him anymore than you need too. Honestly it might not hurt to talk to him some to keep him happy and keep him from some self loathing for fucking shit up with you, but at every opportunity you should reiterate that you guys are just "friends" and will remain just "friends". If you do decide to do this it would probably be beneficial to tell him that if he isn't play with this then you have to intentions of being friends.
Good luck!
Aug 22, 2013 10:16 PM #1072135
Geez...I'm really sorry. Everyone has pretty much said what I had been thinking about above. Pretty sure everything I'd say would be repetitious, but I wish you the best of luck. I hope you and your friend turn out okay somehow.
Aug 22, 2013 10:33 PM #1072140
boy behave nikx232
Aug 22, 2013 11:16 PM #1072165
Well, ask your school faculty for a change of classes for either one of you then, and put his SP account on your "ignore list" or whatever it's called, if that helps.
Also, Lover Boy, you aren't who I think you are, right?
Also, Lover Boy, you aren't who I think you are, right?
Aug 22, 2013 11:22 PM #1072168
Well shit, I feel really bad for him. I'm sure he'll understand that you still like him, but he seems to be really sensitive about losing you. He really cares about you, but he isn't sure if you like him, which is why it's making him worried. He needs to understand that there is more fish in the sea, because not every girl is right for you, so you have to keep on searching, and eventually you'll find the perfect girl for you. Or it just might be a bad case of depression.
Aug 22, 2013 11:31 PM #1072173
You should start texting him more often, use slutty emoticons like ;) or (_)_)====D, play league with him and cyber through skype.
OR completely ignore the edgy kid and go on with your life. Because, I believe, you have already confronted him, if not, do so, I'm guessing talking to him in person is out of the question, because if you're truly afraid of him, and he's currently as creepy as you've described you will probably start choking thus being unable to speak your mind. Well that's what I would do, because I don't get attached to people and someones threats of committing suicide over me wouldn't really bother. But I'm guessing you're not like that and bearing the weight of someone's death would be too much (but I highly doubt he's ever going to go there no matter what you do). So completely ignoring him would be a bad move, just as bad as calling the fuzz or asking the big bro to beat the living shit out of the Romeo. On the other hand reporting him to the dean would be a best case scenario, let the grown ups deal with your shit. He will probably get sent to the schools therapist and his parents will get informed that their son is a disgrace to the mankind. But if you want to solve this on your own, start communicating with him again, using baby steps, unless you're hungry for his cock, then go for it, otherwise, a smile a day would do the trick. Have small,meaningless conversations whenever, but try to avoid all the deep shit, when he starts talking about feelings or how sorry he is find a subtle way to butt-out. Only talk to him to keep the boy mentally stable, the obsession will go away at some point if you won't give him too much attention, but since he's a fucktard, you can't give him too little or he will cut his wrists (no, he fucking won't otherwise he would've already done that, I've seen too many "Committing suicide tonight" threads on /b/ to know that) Do what women do best-manipulate men, or in this case, a kid who lost his balls in a whirlpool bathtub accident
OR completely ignore the edgy kid and go on with your life. Because, I believe, you have already confronted him, if not, do so, I'm guessing talking to him in person is out of the question, because if you're truly afraid of him, and he's currently as creepy as you've described you will probably start choking thus being unable to speak your mind. Well that's what I would do, because I don't get attached to people and someones threats of committing suicide over me wouldn't really bother. But I'm guessing you're not like that and bearing the weight of someone's death would be too much (but I highly doubt he's ever going to go there no matter what you do). So completely ignoring him would be a bad move, just as bad as calling the fuzz or asking the big bro to beat the living shit out of the Romeo. On the other hand reporting him to the dean would be a best case scenario, let the grown ups deal with your shit. He will probably get sent to the schools therapist and his parents will get informed that their son is a disgrace to the mankind. But if you want to solve this on your own, start communicating with him again, using baby steps, unless you're hungry for his cock, then go for it, otherwise, a smile a day would do the trick. Have small,meaningless conversations whenever, but try to avoid all the deep shit, when he starts talking about feelings or how sorry he is find a subtle way to butt-out. Only talk to him to keep the boy mentally stable, the obsession will go away at some point if you won't give him too much attention, but since he's a fucktard, you can't give him too little or he will cut his wrists (no, he fucking won't otherwise he would've already done that, I've seen too many "Committing suicide tonight" threads on /b/ to know that) Do what women do best-manipulate men, or in this case, a kid who lost his balls in a whirlpool bathtub accident
Aug 22, 2013 11:57 PM #1072187
Hey cam. Sorry to hear you're going through this :/. I'm glad you're taking it seriously cause that's definitely not normal. He obviously has mental health/dependancy issues. I think that if you feel he's a genuine threat to himself or to you, you need to report it. Even though he seems nice, it's really really not safe for you to be talking to someone in that mental state. He could be dangerous to you. If you report it, the police should know what to do. They might keep him and have him mentally evaluated. I'm not sure how things work where you are.
Aug 23, 2013 12:15 AM #1072201
I've been in love myself, and knowing you're about to lose the person you love or you won't be able to see her really devastated me. When my love moved to another country I think I was depressed for a week or so. At first I really tried contacting her through Skype and other chats, but it just doesn't feel real. I was upset with her because she moved away so sudden, but then I realised it was just the fear of losing her which made me angry. Your friend is releasing his anger on you and it turned quite bad. I didn't choose to let the anger become some kind of weird hate/suicide thing like you're friend did Camila.
If I was you in this situation I would be very careful and act as if nothing happened. It was his choice to guide himself with his anger not yours. It is not your fault and you should definitely not feel responsible for his actions at all. If he continues bothering you go tell on him on his friends/family (if he has them). And if it really turns living hell you should contact the police.
I don't know if this helped in any way at all, maybe I misread some things and misunderstood the whole thing. Well I tend to do that sometimes and in that case, my bad.
If I was you in this situation I would be very careful and act as if nothing happened. It was his choice to guide himself with his anger not yours. It is not your fault and you should definitely not feel responsible for his actions at all. If he continues bothering you go tell on him on his friends/family (if he has them). And if it really turns living hell you should contact the police.
I don't know if this helped in any way at all, maybe I misread some things and misunderstood the whole thing. Well I tend to do that sometimes and in that case, my bad.
Aug 23, 2013 12:16 AM #1072203
I agree that you should keep in mind about talking with the College's Dean and campus security. As Zed has stated; technically once you've reached College level, you're an adult and have to take responsibility for your actions. Hopefully the Dean, or a person with authority, can contact family and inform them of this guy's tendencies so they can help him.
I took a class last year on Abnormal Psychology, and in it we discussed a big number of mental illnesses and strange behaviors. I'm not stating I'm an expert or anything like that, but from what you've described of his actions I think this guy has a mix of illnesses, one definitely including Depression to go to such lengths as to threaten suicide and then make an attempt, no matter how small. I'm sure there's another that describes his clinginess and awkward social interactions, I just don't have an exact name for it as there is a number that could define it.
It's nice to see that you're reaching out to friends for help, but really all that this online community can do is offer suggestions and hope for the best. I suggest, that if you really are afraid for both your safety and his, that you tell someone immediately. Jumping to conclusions, I would say that we don't know what this guy's is capable of. Common sense is not so common in the majority of people, and to make even a single attempt on his own life shows that he's a threat to himself. And knowing what you do, I'm sure that if he tried again and succeeded, you'd feel guilty for not having done more. I know I don't know you and don't want to add pressure to you, but you seem like a kind and caring soul, and I feel that you would feel guilty over his death, even if it wasn't your fault.
If your University has a psychiatrist, I think you should schedule a meeting with them and talk out what's going on, if you don't want to tell the police or Dean right away. A therapist will help you through this and give you hands on advice on how to proceed. And if you can get a hold of a Suicide Hotline, I'd advise that you give that a call as well to have a better understanding of what you're dealing with.
I took a class last year on Abnormal Psychology, and in it we discussed a big number of mental illnesses and strange behaviors. I'm not stating I'm an expert or anything like that, but from what you've described of his actions I think this guy has a mix of illnesses, one definitely including Depression to go to such lengths as to threaten suicide and then make an attempt, no matter how small. I'm sure there's another that describes his clinginess and awkward social interactions, I just don't have an exact name for it as there is a number that could define it.
It's nice to see that you're reaching out to friends for help, but really all that this online community can do is offer suggestions and hope for the best. I suggest, that if you really are afraid for both your safety and his, that you tell someone immediately. Jumping to conclusions, I would say that we don't know what this guy's is capable of. Common sense is not so common in the majority of people, and to make even a single attempt on his own life shows that he's a threat to himself. And knowing what you do, I'm sure that if he tried again and succeeded, you'd feel guilty for not having done more. I know I don't know you and don't want to add pressure to you, but you seem like a kind and caring soul, and I feel that you would feel guilty over his death, even if it wasn't your fault.
If your University has a psychiatrist, I think you should schedule a meeting with them and talk out what's going on, if you don't want to tell the police or Dean right away. A therapist will help you through this and give you hands on advice on how to proceed. And if you can get a hold of a Suicide Hotline, I'd advise that you give that a call as well to have a better understanding of what you're dealing with.
Aug 23, 2013 12:17 AM #1072205
Oh you finally took my advice to make a thread about it.