I thought of 20.

20 ways a hot surface could be implemented.

If you people.

A community of skilled artists and animators.

Are THAT incapable of thinking up something cool...feel free to ask.

I'm disappointed.

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Only when you push your limits you are able to improove
but camila, what happens when everyone stops making entries?
That's my view point and goal for this bse
Well acbeam
Even if there are 5 people
Or 3
Left by the end of this vesion
I'm sure as hell thay they will be pros by the end of this version
that's beautiful
And I can promise that they'll be able to face any circunstances when it comes to anymation
Even if 200000 people hates me for this
I'll be proud of those 3 people
haha omg thats amazing
The next generration of not lazy animators
Ready for new challanges
So yeah. Is alright if you are kinda angry or that you don't fully understand
this is giving me goosebumps
xD

Ok I stand down, Camila gave me this wonderful 'speech' xD

Not being hateful or anything, but that's 3. And 3 other those can either be people who are already pros or people who just want to get overall prizes and take advantage of the lack of participants. As much as it sounds great or awful, BSE isn't gonna be successful in any way if only 3 people continue. BSE is in no way something that can somehow impact animators world wide in terms of general 2D or 3D. It's just something to get us motivated.

Animation isn't stick figures. Nor is it violence or creativity to the core. Animation is taking a storyboard and animating it. We're not gonna encounter text and given the order to animate what we read.

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Well buddy, of course it'll be way more difficult to perform because YOU limited yourself with the background you chose for this round.

Now there are many things that are biased and wrong about that statement. Judging by how you say it, it's like saying that whatever background any of us use is limiting us way too much. In some ways, yes that's true. But when you are intimidating us with that kind of insult, it's like saying we should just make one of the most dumbest "platforms-that-have-everything-that-can-be-thought-of" backgrounds where we can just add in pillars, flying lava, fireballs that come out of no where, and etc.

It's gonna be way too out of place, nor is it gonna be even creative. It's just gonna be downright insanity and confusing.

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Not being hateful or anything, but that's 3. And 3 other those can either be people who are already pros or people who just want to get overall prizes and take advantage of the lack of participants.

Take advantage?

There are far more profitable and less-stressful methods to earn cash and fame around here than fucking spending half a year for a competition who's payout isn't even enough for your weekly bills. I hardly think those 3 are gonna think 'its all mine baby' at this point. Rather, they would be animating altruistically in the very ways Camila has mentioned.

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As much as it sounds great or awful, BSE isn't gonna be successful in any way if only 3 people continue. BSE is in no way something that can somehow impact animators world wide in terms of general 2D or 3D. It's just something to get us motivated.

Animation isn't stick figures. Nor is it violence or creativity to the core. Animation is taking a storyboard and animating it. We're not gonna encounter text and given the order to animate what we read.

As Rosie said, that is you and you're personal opinion and vision for what the BSE represents and how 'successful' it should be. I wasn't around but as I recall when the BSE first started the first round didn't even have 50 participants. Or 30. It had 15. And they were all trying hard not for the reasons that you have time and time again stated.

EDIT: I FOUND IT. 21 (recorded) participants. Oh look, the original intent was described here:

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Note that this comp is a great oppurtunity to practice combos, and at the end of it there'll be a good chance you will have improved :]

Improvement and practice. I would say that is a big impact despite everything.

But hey, what do you know about this BSE and impact. You already quit.

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But hey, what do you know about this BSE and impact. You already quit.

I quit because I already planned on stopping stick figure animating. Not to mention other dedications to meet to and other projects.

Of course of course. I know, you already mentioned that when you posted to quit. It just bothers me and some of the hosters a whole lot that you still care to call BS on the BSE, even though you've removed yourself from it. I kinda wish you'd host it instead, it would put all of us at ease.

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Of course of course. I know, you already mentioned that when you posted to quit. It just bothers me and some of the hosters a whole lot that you still care to call BS on the BSE, even though you've removed yourself from it. I kinda wish you'd host it instead, it would put all of us at ease.

Well I'm no moderator of the place. Nor will any of us other users will be able to host it either. Kursura won V4 of the BSE and most of us thought he would host it. But apparently, mainly moderators and admins of Stickpage host it. So I wouldn't host it as much as I wanted to.

And I am not solely titling BSE as pure BS. The way how things are brought up and being argued about are BS in terms of how many participants are still willing to do these rounds and the creativity/limitation factor. Not to mention specials ideas.

I don't know whether these special ideas are being thought out by moderators only or people who don't get involved in BSE. But in the previous version of BSE, we would come up with different ideas together and we would mend or add-on to other ideas to make an interesting special where we are sure a lot of people can handle with underwhelming stress. I'm at least hoping the specials aren't being thought by single or very few individuals.

To show some progress, here's a screenie!



And yeah, that's how I'm doing it for the element (Mite's immune to heat, the enemy isn't).
If anyone copies me, I swear, I'll burn their house down... with the lemons.

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Well I'm no moderator of the place. Nor will any of us other users will be able to host it either. Kursura won V4 of the BSE and most of us thought he would host it. But apparently, mainly moderators and admins of Stickpage host it. So I wouldn't host it as much as I wanted to.

And I am not solely titling BSE as pure BS. The way how things are brought up and being argued about are BS in terms of how many participants are still willing to do these rounds and the creativity/limitation factor. Not to mention specials ideas.

I don't know whether these special ideas are being thought out by moderators only or people who don't get involved in BSE. But in the previous version of BSE, we would come up with different ideas together and we would mend or add-on to other ideas to make an interesting special where we are sure a lot of people can handle with underwhelming stress. I'm at least hoping the specials aren't being thought by single or very few individuals.

yup, i meant that v-v

Quote from Hewitt

There are far more profitable and less-stressful methods to earn cash and fame around
here than spending half a year for a competition who's payout isn't even enough for your weekly bills.

It was even longer than that. round 10 finished almost a year after round 1 started.

I'm still working on mine but I'm really behind (and the special element is rather lacking atm -_- ).

how do we post it

Mark XD can I ask you something?

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Mark XD can I ask you something?

ahmmmmmm, yh sure
vm or pm

I was planning to do this round, I had a nice little idea for myself but I figured I don't have time, I'll still try to see if I can do something this weekend.

So I'm gonna write what I was trying to explain to ACbeam yesterday.

I know the element is hard, I know that nothing like this has been done before, and of course it was going to be a challange, I knew that there may be a lack of entries because of this, but here is my opinion on what and why am I planning some things for the BSE. I kinda stopped making the last vesion of BSE, not because it was boring, the elements were fantastic and the combo too, I just noticed a repetitive loop in each round, same pro animators winning, no hard conecpt to apply, scores were only to laugh at someone else's face and say "I got a higher score than you", I realised that the scores prooved... absolutely nothing, really, what was the point of it?, at the end the guy who made more bse rounds would win, and only if you make like... 6-7 rounds out of the 10 that the BSE had, you could say:"yeah, I did learn something important to improve my animation skills".

Now that I had the honor to host this event, I took it seriously, I thought really deep about this competition and I wanted to do something new, I didn't want it to be repetitive, I didn't want to make it easy, I wanted each round to be a true challange for any animator that joins the competition, this is why I focused more on thinking in ways to help others improve by pushing their limits, you all saw the civil war at round 1 because of the scores. When actually the CnC from Arch-Angel was the most amazing thing a judge has ever done for this event, this represents what I'm talking about, everyone is used to have high scores and most of them completely ignored the CnC, for the ones who actually understood the point of this round, they were greatful and they understood why did they get that score and what did they do wrong in the animation and what do they have to change for future animations.

For this round, I wanted to test their creativity and patience, is a hard element and it has never been done before, I know that, but nowadays most of the animators give up on their projects because they "lack of ideas" or "I thought it was going to be easier" or "Is not fun to animate it anymore" and stuff like that, this round was aiming at that weakness, the ability to accept a challange, finish your animation, try something new, and the ability to make something hard to animate a fun activity.

And that's what I want to do, I want each round to be focused in some weakness that most of animators are facing these days, procrastination, creativity, fluid combos, lazyness, be open for challanges, and all of that. I don't give a snap about the amount of entries or the scores, at the end the one who makes more rounds wins the overall prize, I just want to push everyone's limits with these rounds and help them to improve as much as I can, because even if you make only 1 round, I'm sure you'll learn more than 1 thing to improve your animations' quality.

Now if most of you agree on that I should keep things as they were before, alright then I have no problem seriously. But I really wanted this to be something completely new and most importantly an opportunity to improve in every way. To make this BSE fun is up to everyone's actions, I can't tell them to "have fun" if they don't want to, so whatever the element is, is up to you to make it a fun time or not. I hope you all understood my point and intentions (even if my grammar sucks) ♥.