Awesome, I wanted to tell you to post this on SP. We could also start to post official preps from all clans in general in this section, just so it's not dead. And that everyone here could keep up on how clans are doing.

After some discussion with a few other players, is any else open for a castle ban rule? The stage is way too small to negotiate any midgame for either empire, it's rather frustrating.

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After some discussion with a few other players, is any else open for a castle ban rule? The stage is way too small to negotiate any midgame for either empire, it's rather frustrating.

Second this.

Also, if OvC or CvO GH should also be banned...except for OvO and CvC ofc.

I'd be fine with banning Castle.

What about GH though? Yes/No on a ban?

EDIT: A total ban, not empire specific.

A little late to ask this but basically an all out turtle will fail you?

GH has space. While I understand a lot of players dislike that against chaos, it's still very much viable for OVO. Remember, you still have counterpicks as well. With castle, even OvO is a bear to such short space and options in start macro. At least that's how I see it. Does anyone move for a gh ban?

I'm okay with GH. But Castle? No please.

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I'm okay with GH. But Castle? No please.

I guess every chaos player would be ^_^

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I guess every chaos player would be ^_^

I've said earlier, it's more than just cvo. That's an argument for a gh bad for ovc. The point is how this map limits even OvO play down to the smallest technical error that can result in throwing the game.

GH is fine but there are some exceptions where I do want a BAN. But thats just me

We need to work better at speeding the process and gathering matches faster, while also making sure there's fair competitive play. There has to be some order to this (not a pun).

Right now we barely do 3v3s because match listings take as much tiem as they do. They really shouldn't. I always manage to finish before everyone else It's bot because I'm super quick at winning every game (which I don't), it's because I'm focused and I'm considerate of the time to get things moving.

And what you mean it takes too long? the prep itself or the matches?

Mhh...also, what about 2-3 preps = 1 clan war? Such as one week end 1 prep, the winner got 1 "war" point, next weekend next prep, this time with other members, winner get "war" point...if it is now 1-1, next weekend final prep, clan will chose their paticipers, the winner wins the clan war...if its still a tie, then it will be a tie.

Also, with banning the maps: maybe we should get more experience, then we should judge...

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And what you mean it takes too long? the prep itself or the matches?

The prep, I believe there's too much idle time between matches.

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Mhh...also, what about 2-3 preps = 1 clan war? Such as one week end 1 prep, the winner got 1 "war" point, next weekend next prep, this time with other members, winner get "war" point...if it is now 1-1, next weekend final prep, clan will chose their paticipers, the winner wins the clan war...if its still a tie, then it will be a tie.

Having points would be silly. Why not just count 1 prep win as 1 prep win?

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Also, with banning the maps: maybe we should get more experience, then we should judge...

That's why I'm in favor of removing castle. In my experience, it's very limiting and games can be decided from one simple mistake early in the map. Reaction time and response doesn't offer anything for punishes because of the small map distance. As soon as 1 player gets the advantage, the game can be very well theirs. This isn't an Order vs Chaos thing, GH has space for these decisions (a lot, which is why it can be striked). Castle, in my opinion, is too small even for OvO, and pretty much comes down to who can manage that tower for the first 30 seconds of game. Pretty lame if you ask me.

Another suggestion: should there be anything in specific about lags, or even lagouts? Lag-outs can count for a loss, I see that as fair, but if someone has a really slow connection, and it affects the game, should there be anything to confront this?

mmhh...well, your right ^_^ i think we should ban castle...with GH it isnt decided yet, so guys, what ya thinking?