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Venix vs Zexo0

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Aug 7, 2014 9:01 PM #1228988
I got a fighter spirit i just like fighting im talented in SOMETHING just idk what is it i dont have a good nerves a word can make me RAGE but many times i try to ignore the words they say about me or somone....Ill try to be like FLLFFL just chill thanks for the help man :) *checks the poll results* Venix:8 Zexo:0.............AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENIXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX IIIIIIIIIII WANT A REMACH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH REEEEMATCH *turns on pivot and starts to create the fight*
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Aug 7, 2014 9:05 PM #1228989
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probably almost nobody loses theyr first RHG fight....


I haven't looked into it, but I'd expect most people to lose their first one. The other animator has more practice than you - you should expect to come off worse. But you'll learn from it and you'll come back better next time. (Edit: This was still a relevant comment when I started typing. This post took me a while.)


Venix's animation had no easing, and I'd like to see him make his own sticks. I'm not sure how, but you've left me with the impression that you had no real movements and yet good choreography. This paragraph has literally taken me ten minutes to write because I think there's more to say but I cannot for the life of me work out what it is. Just ... keep practising, I guess.


I can say more about Zexo0.

1. Edit your work. It's pretty clear that once you clicked "Next Frame" you never went back to what you'd just done. It stood out most of all at the point where the background came in front of the blue stick. Take the time to go back and fix mistakes like that. When I was starting out I used to animate roughly what I wanted until I had a complete animation and then I'd go back and make sure all the easing was right and there was no stiffness or shakiness. Nowadays when I animate I stop after every frame and flick back and forth until I've made sure every joint is moving smoothly with the previous three or four frames. Either way works.

2. Move every joint in every frame. Even though people in real life tend to stand relatively still most of the time, it looks wrong in Pivot when a joint stays fixed for any length of time. And you'll find that arms move a lot for movements like jumps where you may not have thought about it, while the back joints are crucial for absorbing impacts.

3. Think about how people move in real life. It will help if you can stand up and do the movement yourself. It's also good to watch other people in everyday life (but try not to look like a stalker when you do it). Focus on the little movements, especially the ones you can't actually animate in Pivot, like the way hips roll with a walking motion. Once you know what you're trying to mimic it becomes much easier, and you need to look at the bits you can't do so that you can work out a way around them - if you just ignore them you'll find your stickman drags his feet through the floor whenever he walks.

4. Stay away from effects for now. Anything more than a camera-shake will look tacky until you have a feel for when and how to use them.

5. Read tutorials. Nothing in particular - just read whatever you can. Everything you read will add to your understanding of animation, and you can sometimes find that something you learned in a punching tutorial will come in handy for a jumping movement, or for choreographing a stickman juggling knives, or whatever. Don't worry too much about any tutorials which are just a sting of pictures, because they won't really teach you anything - look for the ones with lots of text. And generally stay away from YouTube.

I think that'll be enough for you to get on with for now. Keep practising and you'll do better next time. And I have seen far worse first tries, by the way, so don't feel like you're never going to get the hang of it.

Oh, and btw:

Quote from Zexo0
i wont give up my friends say dat im the guy dat doesnt give up (dont remember the wrd im not from england or smthing)


As a guy from england or smthing, you're either looking to say "I'm tenacious" or "I have perseverance". :)
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Aug 7, 2014 9:13 PM #1228996
Wow dude...Thanks Zed a lot now i understand i gotta try more and just think about the movements and stuff anyways i think i get it now :) thanks a lot man :) :) :)
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Aug 7, 2014 9:19 PM #1228997
I have two words for Zexo0.
YOUTUBE!!! TUTORIALS!!!!
That stuff is the shit!!! You probably already know but I might as well throw that in there...Anyway good battle man keep practising.
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Aug 7, 2014 10:01 PM #1229012
I voted Venix, cause it was awesome. Sorry cause my brother was annoying me and I pressed "vote now" for Zexo0...
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Aug 7, 2014 11:22 PM #1229045
Yep, Im going with Venix

Here's what I like from both animations :

Venix : You did solid combos, nice fluidity, and smoothness. You had good angles, I might add.


Zexo0 : I liked the fight.

Here's what I don't like.

Venix : I need BGM dude :< ALWAYS ADD BGM...... (lmao)

Zexo0 : It was choppy, It was wobbly, Your uppercut in the beginning made no sense, no physics, no fluidity. (Go youtube brother. Youtube solves everything. It's where my animation story began.... lmao)

Also one question for Zexo0, how many FPS was your animation? And how many frames.
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Aug 8, 2014 2:39 AM #1229137
Zexo stop complaining thats absurd, did you really expected that you was going to win with that animation?
you need to learn the basics of stickfigures animation before creating you RHG man, and if you dont, at least dont complain, you can become like FLLFL, you can become a nightmare to fight, but heh, the way is too long, and you are at the first step, so dont pretend something from now.
PRACTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 8, 2014 3:00 AM #1229145
Just improve with practise lmao
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Aug 8, 2014 4:38 AM #1229194
I liked Ven's better, but Zexo's had a sparta kick, so I voted for him, haha.
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Aug 8, 2014 6:23 AM #1229236
Quote from Zed
I'm not sure how, but you've left me with the impression that you had no real movements and yet good choreography. This paragraph has literally taken me ten minutes to write because I think there's more to say but I cannot for the life of me work out what it is. Just ... keep practising, I guess.


I think what you're trying to say is that Venix has some good ideas with marred execution. I also voted for Venix.
[/hr]Zexo0, your animation reminded me of a guy named Vexor the Immortal (dat username). His animations were something like yours but then he improved, very noticeably. My point is that just persevere because improvement, (especially big ones) doesn't come overnight, within a week or maybe even a month; but you'll get there at some point just don't give up and hold your ground for the long term.

Pivot is like playing ASCII roguelikes, it's very difficult at first but in due time...
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Aug 8, 2014 7:13 AM #1229250
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I dont know im just used to it...Speed battles are like ehhh whatever but them but this is REAL RHG FIGHT and its my FIRST FIGHT ON RHG EVER IN MY LIFE...ehhhh i cant get at least 1 vote i was so close to getting the first vote DO YOU KNOW HOW IS THIS IMPORTANT TO ME IVE WANNED TO MAKE AN RHG BATTLES LIKE OXOB AND OTHERS FOR LIKE ALMOST ALL MY LIFE SINCE I SOD THE FIRST RHG BATTLE....ALL I WANNED IS TO WIN AT LEAST 1 BATTLE......cmon...i dont even know what to do probably almost nobody loses theyr first RHG fight....

Bruh the.time u spent complaining u couldve mastered something already. Another part of.this rhg thing u must analyze yoself. Try not to take on people who.are a grea deal above u (not implying anything). Im a fellow pivot animator too and I got some probs cuz I.focus too much on making.scenes and angles, but do u see me complaining no
Stop.saying negatives about yo.self and enlighten yoself. It.didnt take fllffl and oxob.a.day to get where they are it took hard work and dedication.
Damn might of.came.off too.hard not saying it in anyways to hurt u zexo but to encourage.u. just.work.at it maaan and I promise u... it WIILL.pay off
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Aug 8, 2014 7:17 AM #1229253
Just to say, you think that nobody loses his/her first fight, Zexo.
But my first battle was vs someone that was also doing his first battle.
and guess what, i LOST... TWICE(forfieted first one)
and then i won my second and third battle. probably my fourth...
but i lost my first battleS.
so don't be like this.
YOU MUST GO ON!!!
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Aug 8, 2014 7:23 AM #1229255
Zexo lemme.ask u this... u say tht almost no one loses.their.first rhg battle.
Rhg#1 A vs.B. its both of.dem first rhg match
A wins...... didnt b lose his.match? Someone has to lose on.their first match..... thats my philosophy
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Aug 8, 2014 7:31 AM #1229258
Well i lose in my first battle vs fffffuuuuuuuu. We lose the guy that better than us to make the spirit of the animating. To practice more and more until we win and be the best. No matter what it takes, just keep practicing. So don't think a negative thinking, AND TRY YOUR BEST AFTER YOUR PRACTICE AND YOU WILL SEE YOU IMPROVE.....
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Aug 8, 2014 7:39 AM #1229259
Guys stop telling Zexoo off. He already graciously accepted his fate when Zed gave him some wonderful cnc
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