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So it strikes me as ironic that people talk it up as so special, when really it's about the least special thing humans can do.

While some of your reasoning is correct, human have conclusively demonstrated an ability to make it more than just a biological seizure to procreate. A couple can be fully capable of finding out their spouses are infertile, and still be capable of remaining in love with each other. Poetry, architecture, dance and numerous arts have all been enriched by this feeling called love that captured artists over the years. I think the presence of statues like the Venus De Milo, buildings like the Taj Mahal and the poems of Byron (all inspired in some way by the creator being in love with someone or something) have justified the stance that human love is certainly more complex than merely an animalistic mating ritual. Now, it CAN be that too, but it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be that.

Quote from Vorpal

Well I'm not talking about love itself, I'm mostly referring to being in love, like relationships and romance, all that shit.

The former is too vague and usually results in abstract conversations, the latter is a biological compulsion.
When I see a couple, a lovely couple holding hands and kissing, I'm not seeing "love" so much as animals in heat. Creatures that have been doing this for generations upon generations and have no ability to perceive it as anything but this fantastical thing they make it out to be.

I guess this makes me a dickhead.
So it strikes me as ironic that people talk it up as so special, when really it's about the least special thing humans can do.

I think you look at everything too much as a science. When people say they have a chemistry they don't mean their hormones caused a chemical reaction. I don't think that everything seen as a connection with other human beings is nothing more than a hormonal illusion.

Our minds have developed so much further than basic animal instinct. Sure there is no way to get rid of our basic instincts but that doesn't mean we are run by them. There is a reason you can look at another person and think they are physically appealing in every way but when they talk and act like a bitch it can kill a boner that fast. (Can. Some people like that so Yano).

You're not a dick but rather I don't think you are able to relate to the feeling of love since you have yet to feel it. Not all love is true and sometimes it is hormone based. My last actual girlfriend I was with for 2 years I got with because we had a sexual chemistry and I turned it into something more in my head. Wanted it to work so badly that I blinded myself to the fact she was manipulating me and separating me from as many friends as she could. My bro (not blood) Uyo she hated most of all but it was thanks to the way he was that I could see he was causing no problems that she said he was.

Eventually I snapped out of it when she tried to change me too much and took advantage of my kind heart. I'm glad I got out of it before she seriously started messing with my life. I don't hate her for it though. I'm better for the experience.

Quote from Not_Nish

While some of your reasoning is correct, human have conclusively demonstrated an ability to make it more than just a biological seizure to procreate. A couple can be fully capable of finding out their spouses are infertile, and still be capable of remaining in love with each other. Poetry, architecture, dance and numerous arts have all been enriched by this feeling called love that captured artists over the years. I think the presence of statues like the Venus De Milo, buildings like the Taj Mahal and the poems of Byron (all inspired in some way by the creator being in love with someone or something) have justified the stance that human love is certainly more complex than merely an animalistic mating ritual. Now, it CAN be that too, but it doesn't necessarily HAVE to be that.

And that's a really good point, I have a lot of respect for people that will stick with their partner and their vows even upon discovering they're infertile.
My problem comes from people that would rather participate in said animalistic mating ritual and pretend it's something deeper than it actually is.

I believe in unconditional love, I just don't believe many people are loving unconditionally.

It reminds me of talking to my Grandma about it, she said "Yeah boy, when your Grandfather and I got together we were just a couple of scared kids that wanted sex and didn't really know anything about each other." Mind you, back in their time, it was customary to marry before intercourse. So they rushed to marry.
My respect for them doesn't come from some fantastical, love at first site, true love, bullshit. It comes from the fact that they've worked and tried like hell on their marriage despite all the twists and turns, for themselves, for their family and for love.

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I think you look at everything too much as a science. When people say they have a chemistry they don't mean their hormones caused a chemical reaction. I don't think that everything seen as a connection with other human beings is nothing more than a hormonal illusion.

This actually isn't true, I might be the most visceral person you meet on here.

Wait, love isn't a chemical reaction in the brain and penis?

Quote from Arch-Angel

Wait, love isn't a chemical reaction in the brain and penis?

Just the love of millennials who haven't had the time to prove the love they perceive is really as deep as they think it is.

Which would leave us justifiably skeptical.

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My problem comes from people that would rather participate in said animalistic mating ritual and pretend it's something deeper than it actually is.

True, but the problem there comes not from the concept of love, but from the fact that most people are fucking stupid. You could take almost any human pursuit and give it some thought, and you'll soon realize that the vast majority of people understand/experience only a handicapped view of it. You can arguably just remove the word love, and throw in politics, geology, history, psychology, behaviour, art, poetry, gaming, sports, gardening, children, martial arts, animals, the cosmos, nature, physics, chemisty, exploration, business, strategy, hatred, adventure, comedy, family or any other human endeavor/emotion/study and we will find that the majority of people who are willing to proselytize about their experiences in it have no clue what they're talking about or the deeper implications of what it actually means.

Of course, I agree with what you're saying it really applies to the entire pallet of human emotion. And that's why I ask is love really so deep? Is it really so special?

Under the magnifying glass, the ocean of human emotion starts looking more and more like a kiddie pool sometimes. Don't get me wrong this isn't how I feel most of the time, I'm just empathizing with a cynical view.

Love is really deep because it is an emotion that can span several spectrums, with each one being just as powerful.

With hatred, for example, there is just hatred. With fear, there is raw fear. But with love, it can be lust, it can be affection, it can be just wanting to be near someone. In some cases, it can be that you just want that person to be happy, even without you. Love has easily left the most lasting effects on the world, even more than fear or anger or hatred. Those three 'negative' emotions along with greed are what run most of the world on the large scale, but the only thing that humans have to combat them all together combined is through love. Love for life, for family, for a book, for a video game, for weed. Love for anything is all we have to fight the fucking rutting scum that is the rest of the human experience.

Yeah jutsu, your love for weed is what keeps you going, man.

Quote from Not_Nish

Love is really deep because it is an emotion that can span several spectrums, with each one being just as powerful.

With hatred, for example, there is just hatred. With fear, there is raw fear. But with love, it can be lust, it can be affection, it can be just wanting to be near someone. In some cases, it can be that you just want that person to be happy, even without you. Love has easily left the most lasting effects on the world, even more than fear or anger or hatred. Those three 'negative' emotions along with greed are what run most of the world on the large scale, but the only thing that humans have to combat them all together combined is through love. Love for life, for family, for a book, for a video game, for weed. Love for anything is all we have to fight the fucking rutting scum that is the rest of the human experience.

I want to believe love has left a bigger impact on the world than hate. I can't say for certain though, it's quite the dichotomy.

But we're crossing over more into "love" as the concept, the abstract, on the spectrum emotions. Versus being in love, the romance and that sort of thing.
Speaking of which when does it go from love to being in love?

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Yeah jutsu, your love for weed is what keeps you going, man.

You know it.
But sometimes I feel like the only reason to get up every day is because there's scrubs waiting for me to beat them.

Except for last night, haha holy shit we got our assess kicked.

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I want to believe love has left a bigger impact on the world than hate. I can't say for certain though, it's quite the dichotomy.

But we're crossing over more into "love" as the concept, the abstract, on the spectrum emotions. Versus being in love, the romance and that sort of thing.
Speaking of which when does it go from love to being in love?


You know it.
But sometimes I feel like the only reason to get up every day is because there's scrubs waiting for me to beat them.

Except for last night, haha holy shit we got our assess kicked.

I miss playing league with you guys

Dudes holy fuck

Terminal Lance: The White Donkey is one of the best fucking books I've read in my life. It's incredible

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Dudes holy fuck

Terminal Lance: The White Donkey is one of the best fucking books I've read in my life. It's incredible

What's the premise? I need to get into another good book. Last thing I read was Horns. That's a good ass read.

Its a comic book about a marine who gets sent to war in Iraq. I think Cook loves it because he wants to shoot hadjis.

I tried League of Legends

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after the first tutorial match, I felt an addiction slowly rising up