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AKFG and The Pillows are a different genre and I don't really like either of them. Rip Slyme is my favorite hip-hop Japanese band, so yeah I'd say they are lol. These are some good songs.

I was testing you, Rip Slyme is the only Japanese Hip Hop band I know and that's just cause of Gantz.

I love the Gantz opening. Thanks for introducing me to the group who made it.

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Haha what. Have you listened to Epoch and Masterpiece?

I was surprised to see them in Gantz because the Super Shooter song was on the B-side of their single "Galaxy" which is one of my favorite songs.

Never heard of em, are they in the same genre?

Here guys, come and read this discussion about the Zimmerman trial going on in the Fight Night Forums (boxing game).

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/9619077.page

It's probably one of the least intelligent groups of people you will ever meet. (which is to be expected in a boxing video game forum I guess). It's really disappointing how the second something like this happens, the first thing they do is cry racism and criticize the legal system. None of them would even care if it weren't for the fact the victim was black. Funnily enough, whites are still criticized for being racist, when the man isn't even whte. He's Hispanic, which last time I checked is a minority too.

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Epoch and Masterpiece are 2 Rip Slyme albums. I bring them up because they're like the few albums where I like every single song in them.

Just listened to Gantz. First time ever listening to Japanese hip hop O.o

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Epoch and Masterpiece are 2 Rip Slyme albums. I bring them up because they're like the few albums where I like every single song in them.

You hear that? Thats the sound of ignorance being blown away. Thanks for informing me, I'm listening to the albums right now

@Cronos
EA sports forum lol.
I'd repoast your sig, but we went over that whole image posting thing a while ago.

I think its so racially charged b/c of distrust of police and the idea of the dangerous young black man that's prevalent in the US

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You hear that? Thats the sound of ignorance being blown away. Thanks for informing me, I'm listening to the albums right now

@Cronos
EA sports forum lol.
I'd repoast your sig, but we went over that whole image posting thing a while ago.

I think its so racially charged b/c of distrust of police and the idea of the dangerous young black man that's prevalent in the US

Maybe that, or maybe it was just that Zimmerman's argument had better proof. You never really know the whole truth. I think the jury maybe had done it's best but couldn't really confirm him guilty.
But either way, he did kill a minor, for which he should be charged something.

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Here guys, come and read this discussion about the Zimmerman trial going on in the Fight Night Forums (boxing game).

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/9619077.page

Lol, at the one guy on the forum that is arguing for Zimmerman.

"None of the people on this forum are particularly bright. That's been blindingly obvious since the moment I joined. So please don't criticize the justice system when you're clearly too ignorant to comprehend the systems put in place to protect your own rights.

Ugh.
I honestly don't care what your opinion is as long as you can back it up, but as soon as you start talking complete and utter bullshit that doesn't contribute a single thing to the conversation, then you are just being stupid.

OP
You don't know me. That alone makes you look ignorant and lose all credibility as an "intellectual". Lol @ you trying to tell other people what they do and do not understand.....

Thanks Cronos, for that wonderful reminder of people that I would aim to not have conversations with.

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Maybe that, or maybe it was just that Zimmerman's argument had better proof. You never really know the whole truth. I think the jury maybe had done it's best but couldn't really confirm him guilty.
But either way, he did kill a minor, for which he should be charged something.

The way I see it, the whole thing could have been prevented if Zimmerman wasn't concealing his weapon and actually had it out as a warning if he actually felt threatened. If it went off in a struggle, that's not self-defense, its aggravated manslaughter.

My mom put it perfectly to me:

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In a situation like that, the dead can't defend themselves. So regardless of what happens to Zimmerman, Treyvon still loses.

EDIT: This happened in Florida right? Funny thing this is the first link that came up when I searched Aggravated Manslaughter
Thanks Google:http://law.onecle.com/florida/crimes/782.07.html

Yeah, fuck Zimmerman.

hahaahahaahah but it's true

Yeah because an overweight and much older man isn't going to freak out when a younger more athletic man is on top of him beating his face in. The kid was high at the time so god knows how his judgement may have been impaired.

Plus, is Florida even an open carry state? Do you realize how much attention you get from the police for open carrying a firearm?

I would have shot the kid too. It's obvious the only reason he didn't pull the gun earlier was because he didn't want to kill the kid or hurt him. If your intent is to cause harm to someone do you use your weapon before or after they kick your ass? Zimmerman probably didn't expect to be attacked and he panicked because chances are if the kid is like fourteen and high he must have been into some kind of trouble so it isn't irrational for Zimmerman to suspect he might have at least a knife on his person.

Lol you guys are silly.

Apparently open carrying is legal in Florida while hunting, fishing, etc and at work. Which completely shuts down your opinion on the whole matter, organization.

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Yeah because an overweight and much older man isn't going to freak out when a younger more athletic man is on top of him beating his face in. The kid was high at the time so god knows how his judgement may have been impaired.

Plus, is Florida even an open carry state? Do you realize how much attention you get from the police for open carrying a firearm?

I would have shot the kid too. It's obvious the only reason he didn't pull the gun earlier was because he didn't want to kill the kid or hurt him. If your intent is to cause harm to someone do you use your weapon before or after they kick your ass? Zimmerman probably didn't expect to be attacked and he panicked because chances are if the kid is like fourteen and high he must have been into some kind of trouble so it isn't irrational for Zimmerman to suspect he might have at least a knife on his person.

Lol you guys are silly.

Zimmerman was acting in the position of a Neighborhood guard, He supsected Treyvon, called the police and followed him against their orders. He was licensed to carry a firearm and to act as part of a neighboorhood watch.
Police don't use their gun primarily as a weapon to kill, they use it as a form of threat deterrence. Even then, Cops only fire as a last resort, even firing warning shots most of the time. And unless the threat is real, not suspected the shots are almost never in fatal areas.

We can't truly know the reason why they fought b/c there is only one live eyewitness, and that's Zimmerman.

If Zimmerman had so much as showed his gun, in holster or side of his pants(gangsta style). Treyvon would not have even tried anything, and he would still be alive today. Even if Treyvon was threatened by Zimmerman, he would not retaliate if Zimmerman had let him know that he was armed.

This is negligence, and since it resulted in the death of a minor, it is in fact Aggravated Manslaughter of a Minor which is a 2nd degree felony in the state of Florida

EDIT: Wait if its Florida is an Open Carry then that's even more reason for him to show his weapon. If anything, that strengthens my argument

EDIT2: If he wasn't capable of reacting fast enough, maybe he shouldn't have followed him, or maybe he shouldn't be on the neighboorhood watch.
You wouldn't send a 67 year old grandma with a shotgun[incendiary rounds] and (w/)/(w/o) Alzheimer's into a ghetto/detroit and tell her to watch out for anyone who looked suspicious. And then be surprised to find that she ran out of ammo, despite the fact that you left her two cases of it.

How he can not openly show his gun so the kid had no way of knowing he had one.

Florida is open carry but had restrictions.

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How he can not openly show his gun so the kid had no way of knowing he had one.
Florida is open carry but had restrictions.

There's no valid reason for Zimmerman to have not shown his weapon. If he called the police, he had already suspected Treyvon as a tnreat.

Those restrictions are overrided in the case of self-defense. Why would Zimmerman let Treyvon even get close enough to him? Without even mentioning the weapon? Zimmerman didn't know what he was doing, he placed himself in danger by ignoring the 911 instructions, by following Treyvon, and by not showing his weapon. Its like climbing into a tiger cage at the Zoo, and then being surprised when it attacks you.
I hate to sound like a broken record, but negligence is negligence.

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Yeah because an overweight and much older man isn't going to freak out when a younger more athletic man is on top of him beating his face in. The kid was high at the time so god knows how his judgement may have been impaired.

Plus, is Florida even an open carry state? Do you realize how much attention you get from the police for open carrying a firearm?

I would have shot the kid too. It's obvious the only reason he didn't pull the gun earlier was because he didn't want to kill the kid or hurt him. If your intent is to cause harm to someone do you use your weapon before or after they kick your ass? Zimmerman probably didn't expect to be attacked and he panicked because chances are if the kid is like fourteen and high he must have been into some kind of trouble so it isn't irrational for Zimmerman to suspect he might have at least a knife on his person.

Lol you guys are silly.

Apparently open carrying is legal in Florida while hunting, fishing, etc and at work. Which completely shuts down your opinion on the whole matter, organization.

To be honest, the problem isn't what we would've done. Yes, many of us may have pulled the trigger had we been assaulted, but that does not make the situation any more just. As the job of a cop, its his duty to not prematurely rely on instincts like "shoot first, decide later." He should be trained to not rely on killing with his gun and instead rely on other methods of defense that do not lead to using lethal force (say for example, keeping a safe distance away from your offender and use your gun to keep him in check). Let's be honest, we shouldn't have "overweight and much older men" to be chasing "younger more athletic men" in the first place. We train cops to avoid scenarios like these, and if there are no cops out there capable of beating teenagers one on one in the first place, then the police force is a flawed concept to begin with.

I can understand if a normal pedestrian was assaulted and pulled the trigger in self-defense since that person was more likely than not to not have training in such situations. However, this was a cop we're talking about, who, with the utilities and (supposed) training he has access to, shouldn't even have to engage in a fist fight in the first place. If our society can't even build a fundamental difference between the duties and abilities between your average civilian and a trained cop, then we are in serious trouble.

And this is all assuming that the cop had a good reason to stalk the guy. I'm sure he did have one (since apparently the kid was high), but god forbid he didn't.