Yeah but following someone isn't a crime

But negligence that result in the death of a minor is a 2nd degree felony

you guys should consider starting a thread in the debate section or something...

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But negligence that result in the death of a minor is a 2nd degree felony

If he brandished his gun, the first thing you would have done was cry racism and criticize him for assuming the kid was dangerous.

That is not a valid case of negligence. And obviously the court agrees.

Let me just take a quick moment from this debate to say.

Cronos, your avatar is amazing.

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Let me just take a quick moment from this debate to say.

Cronos, your avatar is amazing.

This something that no none can deny.
By the way, where is Xero?

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If he brandished his gun, the first thing you would have done was cry racism and criticize him for assuming the kid was dangerous.

That is not a valid case of negligence. And obviously the court agrees.

The profiling was inherently racist
But the point of debate is self-defense vs manslaughter.
Zimmermann was irresponsible had he not approached Treyvon he wouldn't have need to shoot anything. Fact is he disobeyed the police and pursued someone he suspected. If treyvon wasn't dead he could justify his own side of the story

I don't bring race into this, but even if he brandished his weapon, then we could have an actual case where we can really see what had happened. Profiling is not even a point of debate b/c it, happens all the time in the us had he been a white kid in a hoodie sneaking around he could be suspect enough anyway

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But negligence that result in the death of a minor is a 2nd degree felony

I don't see how accidentally backing over some kids because you neglected to check your rear view mirror or turn your head is the same thing as pulling the trigger on someone that is beating the shit out of you. You can cal it profiling if you want too or you can look at statistics. Black men have the highest majority in prisons, plus the kid was already high when they got into the altercation. That's not to say anyone else does any of those things either. The same thing goes for Middle Eastern men being accused of conspiring with Al Qaeda and Mexicans with working at Taco Bell. And lord know we all have that Asian friend who is really good at math.

Let's also take a moment to understand that working a dispatch for 911 isn't really the police. You can't honestly say that if he didn't follow him he wouldn't have had to shoot anyone. He really shouldn't have had to regardless of if he followed him or not.

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you guys should consider starting a thread in the debate section or something...

And leave the chat thread in another senseless doldrums? Personally, this is some of the more interesting stuff we've talked about on this thread for a long time.

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I don't see how accidentally backing over some kids because you neglected to check your rear view mirror or turn your head is the same thing as pulling the trigger on someone that is beating the shit out of you.

Unless the kid was doing something really suspicious, I still don't think that following someone in the middle of a rainy night where visibility is very obscure and you're more likely to be attacked is something that can be brushed off. Anyone would feel scared and insecure if they realized they were being stalked in this kind of environment. If all Zimmerman wanted to do was check was the kid was doing, he shouldn't have done it in such a shady way that someone would mistake him as an attacker.

My argument isn't throwing Zimmerman in prison, its learning from the mistake. This situation can't just end at the "We would've done it had we been in his shoes" mentality.

Legally negligence is conduct that is reckless endangerment that could be understood as disregard for life. Zimmermann had no right to approach the kid, in fact If the kid had a gun, it would be well within his rights to shoot and kill Zimmerman in defense, Zimmerman would have a valid suspicion

Fact is he killed a minor b/c he wanted play cop

The american Justice system is terrible

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And leave the chat thread in another senseless doldrums? Personally, this is some of the more interesting stuff we've talked about on this thread for a long time.

that's why i haven't complained about it, but the conversation has gone on long enough to warrant its own thread. that way you won't have people trying to change the topic every few posts, either.

someone already made the thread, also:
http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?74281-Should-Zimmerman-be-guilty

I've said my own...
Mobiles vs PCs
Is the end of the consumer PC here?

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I've said my own...
Mobiles vs PCs
Is the end of the consumer PC here?

There will always be a market for PCs. If they become less mainstream, then they'll just become geared more towards hardcore users and gamers, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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There will always be a market for PCs. If they become less mainstream, then they'll just become geared more towards hardcore users and gamers, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

But power users often build their own rigs. Commercial PCs, would become obsolete

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But power users often build their own rigs. Commercial PCs, would become obsolete

I don't see a problem with this