Nah I just felt like posting an entirely non relevant gif image I found.

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if you disagree with what I said I'm all for discussing it but I seriously don't know what this has been all about. I asked a simple question just for clarification's sake, I'm not upset about anything

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if you disagree with what I said I'm all for discussing it but I seriously don't know what this has been all about. I asked a simple question just for clarification's sake, I'm not upset about anything

I'm being a facetious sea-fish.

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Sold out is such a shitty term that's misused like 90% of the time lol

Well then RIP my dignity, used an overused misused phrase

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Sold out to Hillary? What are you talking about?

If you're referring to his endorsement then what the actual fuck, how are you unable to figure this out? What was he supposed to do, run third party, divide the democrat party and split the vote? All that would accomplish is 4 years of President Trump.

He said from the beginning that he was not going to run third party. He is a lifelong politician and he plays the game according to the rules that are in place, he's not going to ideologically sabotage the election in the republicans' favor and it blows my mind that anyone who calls themselves a Sanders supporter would honestly expect him to do that.

When I refer to Bernie as being a sell-out I'm not referring to him not running third party because like you said, that would essentially be the nail in the coffin to the democrats place in this election. However, I don't find it necessary to endorse Hillary, especially after everything that was said when they were running against one another. It's sort of like when Obama said that Hillary would say anything to get elected and change nothing, but has been underhandedly supporting her since day one. I get it, people say things during campaigns to hurt the image of whoever they're running against so they can seem like the more favorable candidate and so they 'say things that they don't mean'. In the same regard that Hillary lied to the public about her emails and everything while she might not have lied to the FBI about it. One is technically legal while the other is not, I get it. Morally, that's still fucked up and should be considered when judging the character of people in power. You know, I really liked Bernie for a while there, even though I did not support most of his policy positions because I don't believe we should try to be a bit socialist, that's fucked up too. I thought the man was authentic and strongly believed in his message and wanted to do good. I couldn't say the same about Hillary, still can't. However, when you have someone running for president on a campaign against corruption in politics and then endorse one of the most corrupt politicians your character takes a fucking hit. I get it, he has a career to think about and wanted to be able to stay in a position to where he could actually try to help, does not mean he isn't a sell out.

And if it helps you to understand my perspective, I very much wanted him to beat Hillary even if I didn't agree with most of his policies. The way I see it, he's the Democratic version of Trump. He would have either done something really great for our country or he would have really screwed us over. At the end of the day I believed he was on the side of the people, while I can't for the life of me believe that Hillary has any American's best interest in mind. To me, having someone that cares about the country try and fail isn't dishonorable, but having someone you can't even trust as potus is way worse.

I suppose the tl;dr would be that remaining neutral should always be an option and something that people in Bernie's position should practice.

Good shit, AA. Also, can someone teach me how to resize IMGs? cause having this giant-ass picture taking up half the screen isn't at all obnoxious, even for me.

Reading an article on NBC, it seems that governments around the world really don't want a Trump victory.

@arch, neutrality is not a very desirable position when donald fucking trump is running for the presidency. priority #1 is keeping him out of the oval office, Bernie has made that extremely clear, and he's pursuing the most viable possible path towards accomplishing that: electing hillary. you make good points but they're secondary to the danger of a president trump

it's not exactly inspiring that one of Hillary's most appealing traits is her opponent but this is the situation we're in

I mean I could legit use the same argument as to why Hillary shouldn't be in office and republicans #1 objective should be to not let that happen, so neutrality on their side would be just as bad.


in the end, you're basically saying half of the country is fucking wrong for wanting Trump. Even if it isn't half, let's say it's around 45%~, that's like 135+ million fucking people. I don't want to seem closed minded or anything but fuck that argument.

Never in my life have I wanted a Wednesday more than I do this week.

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I mean I could legit use the same argument as to why Hillary shouldn't be in office and republicans #1 objective should be to not let that happen, so neutrality on their side would be just as bad.

you sure could. if you feel that strongly against Hillary then that's your prerogative. I'm not speaking objectively. but I would argue that Trump represents a certain type of danger in the form of his petty, revenge-seeking, unhinged egomania and complete disregard for the truth that's just completely unprecedented in modern politics. Hillary has scandals surrounding her, sure, but based on the discussions I've had with you and many other republicans it's pretty clear a lot of the hatred toward Hillary is based on gut-instincts, hyperbole and misinformation that quickly falls apart under any kind of scrutiny. Much like Obama, so I really shouldn't be surprised.

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Never in my life have I wanted a Wednesday more than I do this week.

Are you referencing something? Because I am the first (and probably only) person who doesn't get it.
If you aren't, does that have, like, any relevance to the current conversation?
Just wondering.