I will make it simple (not going to explain more, feel free to continue bitching)

I permanent banned your other accs long time ago as you broke rules in chat box

And does not mean you can dodge it with your tons of alts

Yes, actions need to be taken , against you

Alting to dodge a ban is 1 year. Now if you want to take up the initial ban on your first account that's a different matter but you've waited rather long if so.

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Mystery did that, not me. Love the assumptions though :)

My apologies Ase. Mystery was my second guess.

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I will make it simple (not going to explain more, feel free to continue bitching)

I permanent banned your other accs long time ago as you broke rules in chat box

And does not mean you can dodge it with your tons of alts

Yes, actions need to be taken , against you

That is a complete LIE.

1. None of my alts are banned.
2. You never banned any of my alts.
3. The only person to ever ban me was Ase.
4. I submitted appeals every time I received a ban. If I received an hour or a day ban from Ase and appealed why wouldn't I have appeal perm bans across multiple accounts?
5. Only account I've played on for last 3 months was Entrovert and I took a nice break from this game before that. Why all of a sudden was I banned for a year today? The same day that you made personal attacks against me on this thread: http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?97430-Please-make-a-button-to-Disable-Music!!!/page2

Mystery name the accounts of mine that you permanently banned and why did I receive a permanent ban in the first place?... Cause I assure you none of my accounts are banned. I will gladly get on all my account, type something in the chatbox and screenshot it to show that I am not banned on any of those accounts.

You're lying through your teeth to ban me because you are salty about post on the other thread. You reached an all time low. You need to have your modding ability stripped.

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Alting to dodge a ban is 1 year. Now if you want to take up the initial ban on your first account that's a different matter but you've waited rather long if so.

It's not alt dodging because my main account was never banned to begin with. He's lying about all this. If it was so long ago why am I just receiving a ban now?

I won't comment on this particular case but some mods are not accountable and mods like one of the people mentioned frequently got into fights on global and banned the people he was fighting with. although this is punishing wrong behaviour it shows a does as i say not as I do approach.

Certain people do need their powers stripped thou I don't consider Mystery to be one of them.

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I won't comment on this particular case but some mods are not accountable and mods like one of the people mentioned frequently got into fights on global and banned the people he was fighting with. although this is punishing wrong behaviour it shows a does as i say not as I do approach.

Certain people do need their powers stripped thou I don't consider Mystery to be one of them.

Implying me? lol.

I am not commenting on this case either, I think this is something personal between Archy and myst.

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Implying me? lol.

I am not commenting on this case either, I think this is something personal between Archy and myst.

While I do believe that you are a bad mod, you're no liar Ase. You may exaggerate certain things and abuse your power, but Mystery took it to a different level.

Mystery straight up lied about banning my Alts. As I stated earlier NONE of my alts are permanently banned which is why I asked Mystery to name some of these account he supposedly banned. Either 1. He won't reply back 2. He will say he forgot the names of the accounts he banned or 3. He make an excuse of why he doesn't have to provide the information.

He gave no proof of anything. He didn't give a timeframe of when he banned my alts the first time (note I have not played on any alts in months) and as of today none of my alts are banned. He does not name any of the accounts he banned that he thinks are mine. I will gladly login to any of my alts and type something into the chat box and screenshot it as proof that he did not ban any of my alts.

I appeal anytime I banned from the chat (which is once). I've appealed for hour bans and days bans so why wouldn't I have appealed a permeant ban on more than one of my account? And it is worth noting that I suddenly received a year ban after he attacks me personally on this thread? http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?97430-Please-make-a-button-to-Disable-Music!!!
Seriously read some of his post towards me. It's obvious that he has something against me and is out to get me.

I would give Mystery the benefit of the doubt and say that me might have perm banned someone else and thought it was me by mistake, like he did here. http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?49569-Replays/page95

But it's too big of a coincident that this happened the same day that he makes numerous attacks on my character.

The fact of the matter is that other mods need to review this. If Mystery went out of his way to lie and make up a B.S. story then ban me for a year, than I have very little faith that he will own up to what he did and unban me.

He can't really give you a time set as we don't keep track of bans anymore. Or at least he doesn't, I don't think anyone gave myst the ban list.

It wasn't a mistake, he was pming be about the situation and made it sound like you deserved it, I was in a game so I never saw it go down.

If he can't give a timeframe or name the accounts he supposedly permanently banned then how can he determine they were my accounts? What would lead him to think that I deserved a year ban? I wasn't breaking any rules when I received the ban and as I stated earlier NONE of my alts are banned so it's impossible for me to receive a year ban for Alt Dodging.

If mods are going to to hand out year bans for Alt Dodging when they say the initial ban was "a long time ago" then more proof, evidence and more of an explanation is needed.

With that logic any Mod can ban any player whenever they want by lying and saying that they permanently banned one of their accounts months/years ago and ban them for Alt Dodging, which is exactly what Mystery is doing.

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With that logic any Mod can ban any player whenever they want by lying and saying that they permanently banned one of their accounts months/years ago and ban them for Alt Dodging, which is exactly what Mystery is doing.

Pretty much yeah. :)

Going to side with Archy on this one.

This is the reason we have ban appeals. I, personally, have never seen you on another account Archy, save for Entrovert. I haven't heard of another alt of yours being banned, which would make it hard to say you were ban dodging. Unless some other form of evidence pops up on Mystery's side, I'm gonna have to say the ban needs to be revoked.

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Going to side with Archy on this one.

This is the reason we have ban appeals. I, personally, have never seen you on another account Archy, save for Entrovert. I haven't heard of another alt of yours being banned, which would make it hard to say you were ban dodging. Unless some other form of evidence pops up on Mystery's side, I'm gonna have to say the ban needs to be revoked.

What about the "heisenberg" spams? Wasn't he banned on SP around the time they were active?

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What about the "heisenberg" spams? Wasn't he banned on SP around the time they were active?

Yeah I am pretty sure some heisenbergs have been banned

I don't think Archy is deserving of a year ban.

Let me lay out the facts. Archy ain't the guy if you want hugs and cuddles, and he talks maad shit when he wants. But he never means it really (unless you're deserving/asking for such), and is a cool guy who you can lend a decent conversation with. And I think quite frankly, Ase, Myst, you're LOOKING to hate him.

I actually don't know archy has had any permabanned accounts. I think I banned one (?) of his accounts for a day before after he took it a little far in chat lobby, but I find it ridiculous he requires a year ban. He's antagonistic if you feel shit from every little thing, and sometimes is too harsh for lobby, but he does not deserve a year ban. Month, tops. Week, most likely; but I don't think he was being particularly savage at that time and he's already been banned long enough while doing this appeal.

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Yeah I am pretty sure some heisenbergs have been banned

As I stated earlier NONE of my alts are banned. I haven't played my Alts in months. The last and only time my one of my accounts were banned dates back to June 21st 2015 and it was an hour ban (which I submitted an appeal for) and certainly wasn't a perm ban.



The latest alts I've played on were Heisenberg alts, and those date back to like February and NONE of them are perm banned. Look for yourself.



Now there is a difference between wrongfully banning someone, I understand everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect, and straight up lying so you can ban someone which Mystery has done. Do you really want a liar as a chat Mod?

Thank you Galeforce and DAZ for actually being fair mods.

Honestly though, I've never considered "disrespecting authority" as a reason. Respect garners authority, not the other way around. You're either being flamed for the hell of it or a legitimate point is being made.

And Archy, see me in-game sometime. @Myst If you want my honest opinion, it looks like you were salty and were looking for a reason to justify a ban.