Quote from Alien

the official entry requirements are on the front page, it isn't stated animation software is limited to flash
also, camera movement isn't necessarily easier in 3d than it is in flash, nor is making/animating a 3d stickfigure(completely rigged). idk I feel like you and alpha seagull are undermining the work put into 3d

p.s i'm sure if there is a really big difference than stone/other judges will take into account the capabilities of the animation software :/

I totally agree with Alien. Talent is talent, regardless of the output medium. The same applies to effort, the same amount, if not more goes in 3D animation.

Quote from Alpha Seagull

Exactly. I'm not saying to judge 3D animations worse really. I'm saying they should judge it based on the amount of actual work put into the anim. So if the person does something cool that even 3D animators will have a rough time with, then yeah he should get points for that. But if he does something that flash animators have a rough time doing but is easy for a 3D anim (like angles and shading), then I think he shouldn't get extra points for that.

By this logic (being judged on effort over quality of animation) FL Nordin (Yes I know he was disqualified) should never gotten any cash prize in the game tribute competition because he rotoscoped, even though the animation looked amazing. He rotoscoped instead of putting full effort into pulling off that cinematic sequence. Are you telling me that if a 3D animator pulls off that sequence with his own skill, but finds it easy, should be judged differently?

Your logic is flawed.

Quote from Alpha Seagull

Exactly. I'm not saying to judge 3D animations worse really. I'm saying they should judge it based on the amount of actual work put into the anim. So if the person does something cool that even 3D animators will have a rough time with, then yeah he should get points for that. But if he does something that flash animators have a rough time doing but is easy for a 3D anim (like angles and shading), then I think he shouldn't get extra points for that.

Edit: and Alien, I've used Blender (a 3D animating program) before. angles are as simple as moving a camera around.

I've used blender too. One of the first times I tried,It took me like a whole week to create a basic shitty p90. And also If you've seen amateur 3d animations, from people who've animated in 3D about as long(and possibly even longer) as people in flash, the same errors are made

also good shots aren't as easy as 'moving a camera around'. While the camera movement itself might be easier, there are other things that have to be kept in mind.

You may use different mediums and software to create your piece but the ending result must be an exported SWF as this is a flash competition.

Whoah, sorry folks, didn't mean for this to turn into a big deal. Yeah, I'd be using 3D, and I'd only be using flash as a sort of "compositing" program to output to swf, but there's still a lot of work involved in what I have planned. It's not as easy as pressing a "make awesome" button on my keyboard.

Frankly I just wanted to enter cuz I've always wanted to make an awesome shootout and this is exactly the kind of thing I need to give me a kick in the ass to get started. I'm sure there will be plenty of awesome animations in the same category.

In any case, thanks for letting me participate :)

Also make sure that the 3d people are sticks. Go on YouTube and type in luccasbodde. Try and design the sticks like that.

Yeah, I got it :)

I remember Lucas. He had a lot of cool stuff.

Alright! I've now added the 5 Most Recent Screenshots and their owners onto the front page. While this doesn't completely help keep track of people's progress, this does help note what people are doing to an extent. So, yeah. That's a thing.

REMEMBER, KEEP YOUR PROGRESS THREAD UPDATED AND DETAILED, AS WELL AS POST SCREENSHOTS ONTO THIS THREAD. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT STATED ON THE FRONT PAGE.

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we have to post on this thread too?

Quote from stone

- You should be posting your screen shots here as others have been doing AS WELL AS creating a thread in 'Community Projects' that outlines your project and gives us an accurate timeline of your project as you move along.

Yeah, Alien. You have to post some here as well. Just proving I'm not pulling this out of my ass.

Quote from Azure Kite

Yeah, Alien. You have to post some here as well. Just proving I'm not pulling this out of my ass.

stop he doesnt want cnc

be cool


stay cool

Quote from Xrebellion

It's like you guys are saying that a flash game should be judged in the same way as a 3D game lol.
Hey, they're still both games and we disregard the effort and just focus on the quality! So the fact that a lot more people worked on the 3D game doesn't matter!

I know how 3D works and that it isn't easy to complete one animation. But there are still a lot of difference between 2D and 3D.
I'm just saying that the judges should not be looking at what advantages a 3D software offers.

It's time to let it go, Reb. The judges will judge as they wish to judge. Simply do your best.

Quote from Xrebellion

It's like you guys are saying that a flash game should be judged in the same way as a 3D game lol.
Hey, they're still both games and we disregard the effort and just focus on the quality! So the fact that a lot more people worked on the 3D game doesn't matter!

I know how 3D works and that it isn't easy to complete one animation. But there are still a lot of difference between 2D and 3D.
I'm just saying that the judges should not be looking at what advantages a 3D software offers.

Yeah basically in my opinion is that he should be scored as a 3D anim and not as a flash anim. Cuz there are many differences where things in 3D might be easier to do than in flash, and vice versa. I'm not saying 3D is easier than flash overall. In fact, i think he should get a bit of a bonus since it's 3D. But he shouldn't get a big bonus for doing something that's hard for a flash animator, because it might be much easier to do in 3D. He also shouldn't be judged poorly for not doing something well that may be hard for 3D But easy for flash. This is my opinion, judges can judge how they want. I just think judging it the same way might make the results a bit flawed is all.

can I still join ?

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