You have to preform it right..
we need replays for us to help you.

This is an example of me using the Jug+Eclipsor and losing against spear+archer

www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay8335132&version=2.22

Although now that I look at it, I think I lost because of his Magikill...

Well then, in case of Magikill, get medusa or a marrowkai.

Jugger+Wing should win a spear+archer anyday.

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Well then, in case of Magikill, get medusa or a marrowkai.

Jugger+Wing should win a spear+archer anyday.

There is proof. Now how can you deny order is a stresser in OvC. You have stated it yourself.

The game doesn't only consist of speartons, archers, juggers and wings.

k so, when we fight chaos we should make albow transition right

Go jugs+wings if you're in the lead, go jugs+deads if it's a short nap and if you're at a disadvantage eco wise.

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k so, when we fight chaos we should make albow transition right

He means mericc mages marrowkia medusa giants ninjas

Why make transition to albows unless OvE?

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I always lose against this combo. I have tried Jugs+Eclipsors, Jugs+Deads, and Giants+Eclipsors, but they always fail.

If you use wings,then snipe archers with wings
If you use deads, then get poison and mass them, push back then it's fine
Bombers can be good support as well

OvC albows is good suicide choice

I can't recall the last time I've used albows..

They're decent if you can mass enough of them, but they're not cost effective enough in low numbers, and they lose their cost effectiveness in higher numbers cause of the burn damage not stacking as normal damage.

Albows should get a buff, I never see them being used in high level gameplay unless it gets to end game. But it would have to be on a rare occasion.

So anything that's not used enough gets a buff?

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So anything that's not used enough gets a buff?

It would make sense to, dm would be a different story.