Murphy Gray, the Light's Edge

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Mar 20, 2015 8:16 AM #1329732
What's even happening anymore
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Mar 20, 2015 8:55 AM #1329741
Nothing's happenin.

Maybe because of different timezone.
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Mar 20, 2015 11:41 PM #1330092
Ahhh, I suppose I haven't done CnC on this guy.

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Mar 20, 2015 11:48 PM #1330100
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Ahhh, I suppose I haven't done CnC on this guy.


Teach me how to 're-evaluate'my life.
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Mar 21, 2015 12:05 AM #1330115
I don't know but I'm sure Ebenezer Scrooge could give you a lesson or two. Granted, you seem more stubborn than him as it took alot more than 4 people to get you to even think about re-evaluating your life.
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Mar 21, 2015 1:19 AM #1330186
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I don't know but I'm sure Ebenezer Scrooge could give you a lesson or two. Granted, you seem more stubborn than him as it took alot more than 4 people to get you to even think about re-evaluating your life.


Then shoot me with your deadly finger pistols.
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Mar 21, 2015 2:27 AM #1330222
For the sake of getting back on topic, here's some honest CnC.

First thing I'm a little confused by is that is sounds like he morphs from full body to a stick figure. Is this accurate, and if so, is there any reason why?

You likely shouldn't have a personality that just states 'void'. Even if you have a character who doesn't have much personality, there are always traits that make people different from one another. How is he void? What makes him distant? In what ways specifically does he come off as robotic?

For his being at the peak of human condition, I suppose I can accept that, but if's he's essentially the best at everything that may be crossing a bit of a line. For the start of the light abilities, I'd recommend veering from words like "limitless", especially with that whole storing deal. Is he affected by how bright an area is though? Like, if I started shooting lightbulbs would that weaken him powers, so to speak?

Does it take any prep time to get make himself or someone else invisible or create an illusion? I know light's fast, but I image it'd take a bit to bend it just right.

What's "Stickronium"? Additionally, one thing that's massively confusing me is the way light seems to work for this guy. Half the time it's strictly visual, which makes sense, you see light, but the other half it's a solid, which sometimes appears to still be able to fly. Is that light particles becoming super condensed then? If so, now that it's heavier than the air, is there a reason they still get to fly, or does it at least take effort?

Alright, so I just hit the part where he goes from human to stickfigure. Why stickfigure? Just wondering.

If he's duplicating, is it safe to assume he's less dense and as a result his blows feel weaker?

I believe I've ranted about moving the speed of light before, and even though he is light that's another thing you should try to avoid.

And quarter mile's a bit much for an explosion. There's still 402 meters of instant death, especially when it's no warning or at least comes off as much.

Healing feels like a bit of a cop-out, especially if he isn't even allowed to use it anyway.

As a side-note, I'm not too fond of immortality as an ability, it feels a bit like a huge middle finger to most characters.

All and all, it really does sound like you've got a bit much going on for just one guy, especially to seem to be perfect at them all.

If my math is right, he got the book 3.5 years ago, so that's 1227.5 days or 30,660 hours. For argument's sake let's say he got 6 hours of sleep each day so that brings it down to 22,995 hours. It takes 10,000 hours to become a master at something, but his list is like 7 things long. If it was literally the only thing he did, I could hypothetically see him having 2. Personally, I'd advise you pick either to have his light powers be either physical or visual. With all of them it's just really confusing to try to make sense of.

I think you're really benefit if you decided if his light powers would be either visual or physical. With them both it's extremely difficult to make sense out of, even if you accept magic as playing a factor.
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Mar 21, 2015 2:48 AM #1330231
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For the sake of getting back on topic, here's some honest CnC.

First thing I'm a little confused by is that is sounds like he morphs from full body to a stick figure. Is this accurate, and if so, is there any reason why?

You likely shouldn't have a personality that just states 'void'. Even if you have a character who doesn't have much personality, there are always traits that make people different from one another. How is he void? What makes him distant? In what ways specifically does he come off as robotic?

For his being at the peak of human condition, I suppose I can accept that, but if's he's essentially the best at everything that may be crossing a bit of a line. For the start of the light abilities, I'd recommend veering from words like "limitless", especially with that whole storing deal. Is he affected by how bright an area is though? Like, if I started shooting lightbulbs would that weaken him powers, so to speak?

Does it take any prep time to get make himself or someone else invisible or create an illusion? I know light's fast, but I image it'd take a bit to bend it just right.

What's "Stickronium"? Additionally, one thing that's massively confusing me is the way light seems to work for this guy. Half the time it's strictly visual, which makes sense, you see light, but the other half it's a solid, which sometimes appears to still be able to fly. Is that light particles becoming super condensed then? If so, now that it's heavier than the air, is there a reason they still get to fly, or does it at least take effort?

Alright, so I just hit the part where he goes from human to stickfigure. Why stickfigure? Just wondering.

If he's duplicating, is it safe to assume he's less dense and as a result his blows feel weaker?

I believe I've ranted about moving the speed of light before, and even though he is light that's another thing you should try to avoid.

And quarter mile's a bit much for an explosion. There's still 402 meters of instant death, especially when it's no warning or at least comes off as much.

Healing feels like a bit of a cop-out, especially if he isn't even allowed to use it anyway.

As a side-note, I'm not too fond of immortality as an ability, it feels a bit like a huge middle finger to most characters.

All and all, it really does sound like you've got a bit much going on for just one guy, especially to seem to be perfect at them all.

If my math is right, he got the book 3.5 years ago, so that's 1227.5 days or 30,660 hours. For argument's sake let's say he got 6 hours of sleep each day so that brings it down to 22,995 hours. It takes 10,000 hours to become a master at something, but his list is like 7 things long. If it was literally the only thing he did, I could hypothetically see him having 2. Personally, I'd advise you pick either to have his light powers be either physical or visual. With all of them it's just really confusing to try to make sense of.

I think you're really benefit if you decided if his light powers would be either visual or physical. With them both it's extremely difficult to make sense out of, even if you accept magic as playing a factor.


Immortality won't be a problem for some people if they can naruto seal em' up.

One way or another Mathew you're telling people to fix there wRHG's when ya quite haven't fixed up yours
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Mar 23, 2015 8:06 AM #1332080
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For the sake of getting back on topic, here's some honest CnC.


Finally! Someone with reasoning behind his cause!

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First thing I'm a little confused by is that is sounds like he morphs from full body to a stick figure. Is this accurate, and if so, is there any reason why?


Yes, indeed. The reason behind this particular tramsformation is because, say, to make him more likeable. Imagine if he turns into a solid light when in full body, it would be absurd to make it come true. Stick figures on the other side, fits the solid light form perfectly.

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You likely shouldn't have a personality that just states 'void'. Even if you have a character who doesn't have much personality, there are always traits that make people different from one another. How is he void? What makes him distant? In what ways specifically does he come off as robotic?


He differs from others because he does not have ambition. He is hollow and caring, but he often not display this trait through his words or action, but through his motives. He does not perish the weak but rather give chance for them to strike, making him weak in the eyes of the weak but maintain his strength at the same time.

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For his being at the peak of human condition, I suppose I can accept that, but if's he's essentially the best at everything that may be crossing a bit of a line. For the start of the light abilities, I'd recommend veering from words like "limitless", especially with that whole storing deal. Is he affected by how bright an area is though? Like, if I started shooting lightbulbs would that weaken him powers, so to speak?


There is no need to veer from words like "limitless" as he had potentials yet to discover. And as of brightness in an area, it does not affect him.

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Does it take any prep time to get make himself or someone else invisible or create an illusion? I know light's fast, but I image it'd take a bit to bend it just right.


It does not take time to make him/someone/something invisible, but it takes approx 5 seconds to make an illusion.

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What's "Stickronium"? Additionally, one thing that's massively confusing me is the way light seems to work for this guy. Half the time it's strictly visual, which makes sense, you see light, but the other half it's a solid, which sometimes appears to still be able to fly. Is that light particles becoming super condensed then? If so, now that it's heavier than the air, is there a reason they still get to fly, or does it at least take effort?


Stickronium is by far the strongest alloy in Murphy's fiction world. And yes, the light particles (or photons) becomes condensed when Murphy manipulates them. And there is little to no effort to make them fly as it is not a complex component.

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Alright, so I just hit the part where he goes from human to stickfigure. Why stickfigure? Just wondering.


It increases aerodynamics for speed and agility.

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If he's duplicating, is it safe to assume he's less dense and as a result his blows feel weaker?


They are rather more durable than other light contructs besides the ones Murphy holds. And their blows are just the same as the owner's.

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I believe I've ranted about moving the speed of light before, and even though he is light that's another thing you should try to avoid.


Is the cooldown time insufficient for you? And it won't be sporting for Murphy if he depends on speed the entire battle.

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And quarter mile's a bit much for an explosion. There's still 402 meters of instant death, especially when it's no warning or at least comes off as much.


It's called the 'Super Flare', a quarter mile won't be a problem for such a thing. And btw, he only activates it if he is receiving a near-death attack.

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Healing feels like a bit of a cop-out, especially if he isn't even allowed to use it anyway.


Just for the readers to know.

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As a side-note, I'm not too fond of immortality as an ability, it feels a bit like a huge middle finger to most characters.


Light does not simpy die.

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All and all, it really does sound like you've got a bit much going on for just one guy, especially to seem to be perfect at them all.


Perfect at what? I'm confused.

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If my math is right, he got the book 3.5 years ago, so that's 1227.5 days or 30,660 hours. For argument's sake let's say he got 6 hours of sleep each day so that brings it down to 22,995 hours. It takes 10,000 hours to become a master at something, but his list is like 7 things long. If it was literally the only thing he did, I could hypothetically see him having 2. Personally, I'd advise you pick either to have his light powers be either physical or visual. With all of them it's just really confusing to try to make sense of.


There are other abilities I didn't mention- he can clone his book for his clones to learn as when they go back into Murphy, they will share the collected knowledge. It's for the sake of cop-out-ing anything.

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I think you're really benefit if you decided if his light powers would be either visual or physical. With them both it's extremely difficult to make sense out of, even if you accept magic as playing a factor.


It won't be either, it'll be both. And you can accelp that magic is also playing a factor.
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Mar 23, 2015 8:16 AM #1332093
The wRHG rules say that a character is approved by the people.

Given his response to Crank's breakdown, if you believe this character is OP say AYE!
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Mar 23, 2015 8:19 AM #1332097
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The wRHG rules say that a character is approved by the people.

Given his response to Crank's breakdown, if you believe this character is OP say AYE!


I already have a battle coming up :D
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Mar 23, 2015 8:28 AM #1332106
That battle will be forfeit because it has not been cleared to not be OP.
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Mar 23, 2015 8:31 AM #1332110
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You know, that doesn't mean he'll lose or be unfair. Its not the power that wins here, its how you write. No matter how outmatched or how much one character counters the other it will*still*depend on the writer's skill and not the power of the gladiator.


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This isn't pokemon, and it actually is about the writing skill. Just like in RHG, the better animation would win, so too in wRHG the better story wins.


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Your point is..? Isn't battling a way to improve and not just to win? My gladiator is a tech-based combatant. Anything that can do electrical damage, technopathic or intense amounts of water will damage him extremely and I've won battles against gladiators that have that capability to curbstomp Bl.An.C..*

So I don't see your point. Its all in how he wins despite the odds and how it is written.


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Then why are you here? To showcase your gladiator? If its not about the writing skills then what are going to judge on? The powers? So you're saying if one is gladiator is OP he will win despite the opponent that has the better writing skill shown in his part. Especially if its a pokemon-style weakness fight.

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I don't see why you have to do everything in your power to make him keel over and admit that you're*"correct". Not to mention that you're specifically seeking him out instead of everyone else. Why? Do you just want to justify why your wRHG is stronger and more capable than his? Is this about DBZ-esque power levels?


It's not about the OP-ness, it's about the writing skills :P
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Mar 23, 2015 8:34 AM #1332112
What was that?

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It's not about the writing skills, it's about the difficulty.


You contradict yourself.

And yeah, AYE.
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Mar 23, 2015 8:35 AM #1332113
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The wRHG rules say that a character is approved by the people.

Given his response to Crank's breakdown, if you believe this character is OP say AYE!
Aye...truly believe that he wanted a character that's potentially perfect.

Potentially, yes, but it seems you're gearing him up to have New Powers As The Plot Demands. Yes, I am aware that he is StickOps, not a murderer; yes, he is a pretty chill guy and doesn't go all out most of the time; yes, I think he's the guy who always holds back because of his power; yes, you want a protagonist who has the potential to beat everyone but doesn't need it immediately; and yes, he is the fundamental law of science.

But here's the thing if he were to go all-out against, oh I don't know, Richard Smithson (modern); he can simply wipe him from existence despite the latter being a powerful character in his own right (even with the Deus Arms). Your character has the capability of mass destruction even if he doesn't feel like it. And his immortality isn't helping, you're going to great lengths just to ensure that he'll readily walk away unscathed. Are you really that scared of what can be inflicted on him if he was human? And also, is he some sort of modified self-insert or Gary Stu? Remember Chai Matthews, who manipulated gravity and became an abstract concept? That's some Madoka-tier revival right here. And if you were planning on not having all those powers at the start, and instead make him "unlock" them as time progresses; then perhaps you ought to have simply kept them hidden while giving this guy some low-tier stuff at first.

Don't be afraid to give your characters flaws, don't be afraid to make them weak, don't be afraid to make them "unviable". Think of what the characters are undergoing. And for once, be capable of admitting mistakes. There are a lot of moments where none of this could've happened if you simply just said "Whoops, my bad. Sorry about that, I'll try revising it."


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It's not about the OP-ness, it's about the writing skills :P
Nice job trying to hide it, but how are we going to give a good story on how will Little-Miss Office Lady is going to beat him in a straight-on, no-holds-barred fight to submission?