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Mar 30, 2015 2:08 PM #1338036
Thank you hewitt our savior etc etc etc. Even tho that was my intention from the begining but you jumped in immediately to call me out on that not even giving me a chance to explain further lol


NISH. Glad to hear that lol.

Why do you listen to only 1 genre bro? There are a lot of awesome music around and some great artist too. Is it because you've never heard anything but rock and haven't bothered to listen other thing? Or the complete opposite?.
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Mar 30, 2015 2:10 PM #1338038
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Why do you listen to only 1 genre bro? There are a lot of awesome music around and some great artist too. Is it because you've never heard anything but rock and haven't bothered to listen other thing? Or the complete opposite?.


Are you talking to me? I listen to a lot of genres of music in several languages. Not sure if I said anywhere that I listened to anything but rock. I feel there is a strong possibility that you aren't addressing me here.
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Mar 30, 2015 2:13 PM #1338044
lmao sorry I was trying to quote the first post in this page.... guess it didn't work lol.

I need more music from like the 70s man. The few I have listened have really got my attention but idk where or how to look for them
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Mar 30, 2015 2:15 PM #1338046
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lmao sorry I was trying to quote the first post in this page.... guess it didn't work lol.

I need more music from like the 70s man. The few I have listened have really got my attention but idk where or how to look for them


Really? Everyone from the Stones to the Doors to the Beatles are on Youtube. There are no famous songs not on youtube at this point.
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Mar 30, 2015 2:15 PM #1338047
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Didn't Cami say that was her original intention anyway? Or are you saying she is a liar?

I don't know. Are YOU saying that I'm saying she's a liar, cos you seem to be putting things in people's mouths alot lately.


Really, Cami. Sarcasm wasn't necessary. I was just commenting on the first part of your post; that a music thread has never existed. It has. As much as I want to argue how sometimes people talk about the games they like on the Chat Thread despite a videogame discussion thread existing, I will drop this and just say good luck I hope you know what you're doing.

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Are you surprised? The music culture, especially in the US, has reached a point where teenage girls have reached a melting point, wooing their idols. This is what happens when you turn any artform (Cinema, Literature, Music) into a demi-Goddish surreality.

There is a lot of money to be made from turning the Music industry away from its artistic roots and towards a new commercial, fan-based sensationalist pseudo-paradise.


They've been doing that for years. And I mean, ages. Since the beginning of music immemorial. You can look at it from a cynical perspective but the so-called melting point is but a fraction of what's really out there.
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Mar 30, 2015 2:18 PM #1338050
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I don't know. Are YOU saying that I'm saying she's a liar, cos you seem to be putting things in people's mouths alot lately.


Nowhere close to what you've been doing lately, at least in my case. Keep trying though, its fun.

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They've been doing that for years. And I mean, ages. Since the beginning of music immemorial. You can look at it from a cynical perspective but the so-called melting point is but a fraction of what's really out there.


Correct, yet incorrect. It has not happened on this scale and certainly not towards a laser-focused demographic. This isn't BeatleMania or the rise of Ray Charles. We are talking about more channels, more albums, more avenues, more mechandise.... generally far MORE platforms for young audiences (like direct Tweets and Facebook updates) to FEEL like they are a part of the personal lives of music artists (most of whom do not write their own music, and are told what to sing and what to say from 3rd parties).
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Mar 30, 2015 2:32 PM #1338060
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Nowhere close to what you've been doing lately, at least in my case. Keep trying though, its fun.

Fyi, I was referring to your penis.

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Correct, yet incorrect. It has not happened on this scale and certainly not towards a laser-focused demographic. This isn't BeatleMania or the rise of Ray Charles. We are talking about more channels, more albums, more avenues, more mechandise.... generally far MORE platforms for young audiences (like direct Tweets and Facebook updates) to FEEL like they are a part of the personal lives of music artists (most of whom do not write their own music, and are told what to sing and what to say from 3rd parties).


Those are digital trends. They change the way the game is played, but that's the tech and has nothing to do with the methods. The advent of new platforms merely gives everyone a chance to try new things, but the extremity of fanboyism in music has not changed at all.

Case in point, in 1981, Tommy Tutone released their hit single 867-5309:



What happened? Every state in the US kept calling this number to the point that it drove phone companies crazy. They had to take it off the listing. To this day, corporations wanted to have this number for their own promotional needs and it has seen a change of hands for ages, fetching a hefty price too I bet. Recent American commercials still use these numbers sometimes to advertise in phone companies. The scale of the spread was nationwide, despite the limitations back then.
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Mar 30, 2015 2:36 PM #1338064
I mean artists like jimmy somerville, ELO, aretha franklin. Which are artists that when you tell people about them they're like "wait who?", I already know the most famous bands but J wanted to know about those not-so-famous artists that actually had pretty damn good music back in the day.
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Mar 30, 2015 2:38 PM #1338066
Yes but when was the last time we had this level of personalization with music groups from around the world? If 6 teenagers commited suicide over The Strokes, what would have happened? Maybe they get a blurb in a newspaper, and some magazine mentions them. Today, they get tweeted about, Facebooked about, they get their own theme music, their own hashtag.

I would further argue than an environment of Fanboyism leads to further fanboyism. Therefore, before the internet, a group of fanboys would have risen and fallen without anyone noticing. Today you can create Groups and forums, which then leads to further zaniness around the globe. Teenage girls have always been the most susceptible market in the world, from the rise of the Spice Girls to the Backstreet Boys to N'Sync. However they were kept out of the reach of the lives of every day fans. Today you actually KNOW when Justin Beiber takes a shit. You know where he is, because he tweets about it. You know what he does, because there are updates on Facebook.

This personalization has undoubtedly been fostered directly by companies who stand to make a LOT of money from these pop-stars. More T-shirts, more TV shows, more tickets, more ringtones.

So while I agree with you that the signs of extreme Fanboyism are old and timeless, I'm saying the methods and extent to which modern society has taken the fanboyism is quite a new extreme.

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I mean artists like jimmy somerville, ELO, aretha franklin. Which are artists that when you tell people about them they're like "wait who?", I already know the most famous bands but J wanted to know about those not-so-famous artists that actually had pretty damn good music back in the day.


There are pro-active fans and reactive fans for all forms of arts. You can find the same case with movie purists, or book lovers. We need to find the pro-active ones to discuss with.
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Mar 30, 2015 3:56 PM #1338106
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I still haven't come down from my Pink Floyd high.


I just saw Brit Floyd last weekend at the Chicago Theater, definitely one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
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Mar 30, 2015 3:57 PM #1338107
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I just saw Brit Floyd last weekend at the Chicago Theater, definitely one of the best concerts I've ever been to.


You are a liar, sir and you should be ashamed of trying to get me worked up like that.

How was it, though? Details man! Details!
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Mar 30, 2015 4:19 PM #1338121
I don't have a specific preference for music, I listen to anything that sounds good in my opinion. I basically like most genres except for the bullshit called speedcore. It's just noise.

This is terrible. There is no musical value in this. I can literally bang on table and speed it up 10x and get the same result.

Despite my musical openness though, I do have a preference for chilled out music like ambient IDM or anything chilled out in general. I also love ska A LOT. Streetlight Manifesto is my number one artist in general at the moment. I recently discovered this Ego Wrappin, a Japanese ska band, and I have to say this could only be second to streetlight in my list. I am literally in love with this woman's voice, it ha so much soul. I'm a total sucker for it and if I met a girl who can sing like this I'm sold, done.



I've gained an interest in rap and hip hop as well. Nujabes and shing02 are favorites as well.
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Mar 30, 2015 4:33 PM #1338125
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You are a liar, sir and you should be ashamed of trying to get me worked up like that.

How was it, though? Details man! Details!


well in case anyone's unfamiliar with the Chicago Theater, it's fucking gorgeous:

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and their setup looked like this:

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the theatrics were pretty incredible, they had videos/stage effects/lasers to go along with every song. during Comfortably Numb the lead singer dressed up like a doctor and they even wheeled out a little living room set with someone passed out in an armchair. it was kind of funny seeing him just lay there while everyone was going fucking nuts during the solo.

overall they seemed to focus on replicating the album sound more than anything and they nailed it, everything from the singer who did the belting part to Great Gig in the Sky to the radio effect in the intro to Wish You Were Here to the crazy synth in On The Run sounded spot on. and as a guitarist those solos were just inspiring to watch, everyone involved was incredibly talented.

10/10 would see again

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This is terrible. There is no musical value in this.


it's extremely fast-paced/energetic which plenty of people love and the song is essentially a parody of the genre. m1dy is a really well known speedcore artist, this is little more than him just fucking around and the only audience for this kind of stuff is someone who already likes speedcore, it's not an attempt to make something with "musical value" that can be appreciated by anyone.

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I can literally bang on table and speed it up 10x and get the same result.


I know you're using hyperbole to make a point but no, no you couldn't. here's a better song from m1dy, he's not just fucking around with random samples to make noise, he's actually pretty talented.
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Mar 30, 2015 4:37 PM #1338126
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the theatrics were pretty incredible, they had videos/stage effects/lasers to go along with every song. during Comfortably Numb the lead singer dressed up like a doctor and they even wheeled out a little living room set with someone passed out in an armchair. it was kind of funny seeing him just lay there while everyone was going fucking nuts during the solo.

overall they seemed to focus on replicating the album sound more than anything and they nailed it, everything from the singer who did the belting part to Great Gig in the Sky to the radio effect in the intro to Wish You Were Here to the crazy synth in On The Run sounded spot on. and as a guitarist those solos were just inspiring to watch, everyone involved was incredibly talented.

10/10 would see again


How good are you at playing the guitar? I own one that I mess around with but never really got to learn. I have a lot of trouble sometimes holding down on the fret without touching the other strings and muting out the sound.

I recall watching a documentary on discovery channel about the immense amount of work put into these laser and light shows.
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Mar 30, 2015 4:44 PM #1338127
Brit Floyd is something I've always wanted to see, I only ever hear good things about them.
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