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What is the point of the CA if it is worthless?

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Aug 24, 2015 6:09 PM #1398814
If the CA is this easy to manipulate and dodge, it is pretty much worthless.


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Aug 24, 2015 7:05 PM #1398850
CJ mentioned fixing those dodging bugs soon.

Also the CA still puts a lot of damage onto melee units.
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Aug 24, 2015 7:49 PM #1398870
Just like it has been mentioned fixing other bugs... banning slip... banning killerallah and his 93 other lagging accounts... oh wait... all those things we are told will happen... have never... I won't hold my breathe...

As if order wasn't already screwed enough...
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Aug 24, 2015 7:51 PM #1398872
Order can play this trick on Chaos too >.>

Don't go screaming chaos op. If you think these changes will never happen why bother complaining?
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Aug 24, 2015 9:00 PM #1398884
Quote from alternate
If the CA is this easy to manipulate and dodge, it is pretty much worthless.


www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay10429650&version=2.29


Ah good times, good times.

Wait for the updates bro.
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Aug 24, 2015 9:13 PM #1398886
CA is far from useless fast projectile splash up too 4 units good damage can stack up too 3 it's great and really plus point too playing order. As a average Chaos player CA stops me doing a number of things such as running in cats. Plus when my units are fighting a wall or a high health units that's plenty of time for the CA too hit. Castle dead is much worse slower fireing less damage no splash it's the worse castle defence. Even the Castle air give splash burn. Thou you couldn't really give splash posion that would be OP
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Aug 25, 2015 4:36 AM #1398983
I don't think it is a bug

dodge the CA needs micro skill

and the main purpose of CA is not to give damage, instead it is to stop your opponent from pressuring.
The only thing I don't like is that CA never able to hit bomber tho
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Aug 25, 2015 5:38 AM #1398990
Quote from mysterybat
I don't think it is a bug

dodge the CA needs micro skill

and the main purpose of CA is not to give damage, instead it is to stop your opponent from pressuring.
The only thing I don't like is that CA never able to hit bomber tho


I can agree with this.

Running an archer in is very risky as they are slow and huge compared to a bomber.
The amount of micro needed sidetracks the player from focusing on his eco.

Just getting an archer will shut that plan down too.
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Aug 25, 2015 8:38 AM #1399027
I've also found Fires can do the archer trick, though Ele never struggled before a wall was in front of the CA anyway.
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Aug 25, 2015 9:01 AM #1399030
Quote from AsePlayer
I can agree with this.

Running an archer in is very risky as they are slow and huge compared to a bomber.
The amount of micro needed sidetracks the player from focusing on his eco.

Just getting an archer will shut that plan down too.


It's actually super easy to dodge if you know how to, you can shoot one arrow and run freely (withouth any damage, even stratch). I learned mine from mystery, it is easier to understand by watching from a replay, not reading from forums.
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Aug 25, 2015 9:36 AM #1399035
It's also a super easy way to throw away an archer if the opponent has an archer around when you try to do it.
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Aug 25, 2015 5:34 PM #1399138
Quote from FrictionMarble
It's actually super easy to dodge if you know how to, you can shoot one arrow and run freely (withouth any damage, even stratch). I learned mine from mystery, it is easier to understand by watching from a replay, not reading from forums.


You may have learned it from mystery, but mystery learned it from me lmao.
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Aug 25, 2015 5:36 PM #1399140
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You may have learned it from mystery, but mystery learned it from me lmao.


the "dodge" he mentioned was not the one you referred to lol
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Aug 25, 2015 5:42 PM #1399143
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the "dodge" he mentioned was not the one you referred to lol


www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay10437273&version=2.29

This is what am I talking about, I remember that I saw this in a replay of mysterybat, since that I use it
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Aug 25, 2015 6:11 PM #1399145
Quote from FrictionMarble
www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay10437273&version=2.29

This is what am I talking about, I remember that I saw this in a replay of mysterybat, since that I use it


yes, this is a simple version that I used . Downward when you approach, upward when you retreat.

But Aseplayer showed me an upgrade version of super "dodge" LOL super op against CA starter. (Not going to show the replay as it was invented by Ase, credit to him XD)

For me, I invented the triangle "dodge" method against castle dead. Guess very few people know it tho.
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