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Do the creators not care? Why won't they fix the KNOWN problems?

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Jan 15, 2016 6:12 PM #1430829
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For once, I agree with a post of yours. In the same breath, however, I cannot say with 100% certainty that things are unlikely to change in the near future with the course of the game. If the devs are "busy" then all we can do is assume that they are. I don't see what they benefit from lying in this regard so one would only be left to guess that they are in fact busy as they say.


I do believe they are busy working on other projects but do I think that's a excuse for not updating a game for 9 months? Of course not. I think it's highly unprofessional. I'm not asking for a major update, just a little something to show that the game is still progressing and that they still care about the game.

As far as the timeframe in which changes will be made to the game, you have to realize they said they aren't touching StickEmpires until they are finished with Legacy, and many are saying they still won't touch StickEmpires until they finish both Legacy and SW3. On top of that they said they were doing a major update after they finished the previously mentioned projects, which will take even more time for the community to see any changes at all.

Probably the most obviously problem with this game is balancing issues and the only way to fix that is though trial and error. During this whole 9 month break from updates, small changes could have been implemented and later evaluated amongst the community to see if they worked. But none of that happened and 9 months are wasted.

I also think the last post CrazyJay made was just damage control. Before when the game was seeing consistent updates, we were used seeing an update every month, two months at the longest. Jay made that post 3 months ago and it's still and seems like its gonna be that way for a while. I just would like some honestly that's all.
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Jan 15, 2016 7:11 PM #1430839
Archy, you don't want them to update the game... if they fixed DM, your alts would all be doomed, lol...
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Jan 15, 2016 8:26 PM #1430847
Still doesn't top my 67 alts.

All I can say is.... All anyone can say is be patient. All change comes with time. Perhaps the wait will be worth it in the end. Would you rather have a shitty update for a small period of time or one that is amazing for a greater span of time.
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Jan 15, 2016 8:45 PM #1430851
Since when were alts something to brag about?

And I'd rather have a small update that adds one armory set and a message of what's up every month or two. Consistency is key in retention.
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Jan 15, 2016 9:12 PM #1430855
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Since when were alts something to brag about?

And I'd rather have a small update that adds one armory set and a message of what's up every month or two. Consistency is key in retention.


Why you hatin Daz? <3

Sure, I suppose. Your preference is noted. However, as we are all fully aware already is that the fact of the matter is that Cj and the gang are in fact working on two entirely new games. Coming back to one that is already running merely to add something aesthetic is very unlikely in which case I am sure you understand, no? It takes time to make updates. It also takes time to make updates whilst creating another game. It takes even more time to make updates for another game as well as those updates for the previous as well as the other game that is still in the works. This makes sense doesn't it?
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Jan 15, 2016 9:16 PM #1430856
67 alts? What the fuck purpose does that even serve other than to cause rating deflation? So dumb.
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Jan 15, 2016 9:19 PM #1430857
Bragging rites obviously.
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Jan 16, 2016 12:02 AM #1430884
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67 alts? What the fuck purpose does that even serve other than to cause rating deflation? So dumb.



Well, let's see if you can find a recurring theme:
SirKomcision < first account ever
Theknightofse < second
WrathofShadows < third
YOURMOMPLAYSSE < fourth
FlamingBabies < fifth
SirKulltheRound < 6th
Sir10theSure <7th
SirLeetheMan
SirRound
SirVay
SirIngetheSharp
SirPlustheMany Etc.
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Jan 16, 2016 12:02 AM #1430885
The point being made is if you want to hold player retention, you need consistency. If in the past year, we had a few in-game small updates, it could purely be uploading art assets (which by the way, shouldn't take all that much time in the scheme of things) and the overall contentment would probably be a little happier, as long as it's PR'd right.

"This makes sense doesn't it?"

Only thing I see is your condescending arrogance in every one of your posts. Hoping on your behalf this is an internet persona.
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Jan 16, 2016 12:34 AM #1430892
Okay we can play those games.

Your ability to jump to conclusions is one that would be seen as admirable. How do you do it? I merely asked if what I was saying was conveyed in the proper manner in which you could understand and you take it as something offensive? Calm your tits as I don't instigate not condone and such behaviors along the line of arrogance. If you reread the post and take every word for its actual meaning and stop jumping to assume that I was attempting to put on an air of "I-art-mightier-than-thou" when in fact this is nothing near the case.
The question meant exactly what it says verbatim. Does my post make sense?

Jesus fucking Christ daz... Bro. Just calm it. Lol.

My point was that taking time away from solving issues with the game, albeit minor, to throw something artsy into the game is less sought after by the majority as opposed to fixing issues in the game, correct?
I understand the marketing aspect of keeping players interested in the game and willing to be a source of revenue. In the same breath, having a buggy game with several blatant issues is not something that can just be covered up by something along the lines of a 3-D gimmick, if you can see where I'm coming from. Just because something looks nice doesn't mean it's of good quality.
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Jan 16, 2016 12:50 AM #1430894
From what I understand CJ is still pumping out animations and such for Legacy, maybe if he had nothing to do there, he would focus on SE armory items, which by the way a majority of people can't purchase a quarter of that, so why make more?
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Jan 16, 2016 1:46 AM #1430899
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Okay let's play some games blah blah blah


Yeah yeah, we get you have to be superior to all of us / stay calm while you're the one blustering kkkk

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From what I understand CJ is still pumping out animations and such for Legacy, maybe if he had nothing to do there, he would focus on SE armory items, which by the way a majority of people can't purchase a quarter of that, so why make more?


Purely an example, + right PR. But people purchase what they like *shrugs*, more choices aren't a bad thing.
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Jan 16, 2016 3:07 AM #1430901
Was that really necessary DaZ?
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Jan 16, 2016 3:07 AM #1430902
I agree with Daz. Yall have to realize we haven't seen shit in almost a year. Majority of people make the argument that they are soooo busy with Legacy that they don't have the time to do an update for StickEmpires. Ok, that cool and understandable but is still highly unprofessional to not do any maintenance or anything to a game that you are still charging the public for. If they don't time have for gameplay updates, at least show some type of effort by adding some items to the armory just to show the players that they still care.

A little SOMETHING is always a lot better than NOTHING.

I'd also like to say this. Adding clans to the game is probably the worst update you can do when you have a low player count to begin with and are only losing more by the day.
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Jan 16, 2016 3:40 AM #1430906
I'll pretend that I'm in the wrong daz.
Quoting out of context doesn't prove either of us anymore correct than the other so you could've saved yourself the effort there.
We'll never see eye to eye, I suppose. I'll go ahead and carry on. You can have the last word as you so crave. If you would take the time to consider what I say in its entirety, you might actually see that I'm being rational in my posts whilst responding to ya and that you are really stating things that are extremely opinionated and in fact unjustified. Arrogance is not a thing for me. I will not bow down to you merely because you misinterpret something though. I'd rather help you to see what exactly was my original point and correct the misunderstanding. If that is seen as arrogant then I might need to revisit my library to review the dictionary. I didn't know the definition changed recently.

@nutsophast

It's quite alright. This has become a regular thing for me and daz now. I'm not sure precisely why or what I missed that has influenced him to be this way. I'm sure he has some reason somewhere. He's just withholding the evidence someplace. One day I'll come to an understanding with him and maybe we can communicate with one another in other ways aside miscommunicated back and forth bickering to no effect. Until then, I'll try my best to respond to him in the best ways that I can. The only reason I pay attention to his posts (of this context) is because it pains me to nt reach a complete understanding and/or compromise with people when the issue can be resolved via simple means. Disrespect in his semi-passive manner get nothing done and provide me with the knowledge that he doesn't give two shits about what I have to say or he doesn't understand in some way. I hope it's the latter as I can assist. If the prior then... Tis a shame.

@archy

I'm going to restate what I said in the previous post. The devs are busy. This means that the devs will not be able to act upon the wishes of the users until they find the time to do so. Adding the armory items or something as an incentive to remain pouring money into the game would be nice. However, it will only happen when it does in this regard. I'd rather give them all the time they need to finish what they are doing with the other two so that they can THEN focus solely on the game we play.
Think of it like a fruit tree.
Would you take the fruit merely because it looks nice but tastes like shit? Or wait for the fruit to mature to where it is sweet and its quality is beyond expectation/ well worth the wait?
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