Albowtross cost discussion

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Dec 24, 2015 7:53 AM #1425143
Basically what rain said. How would this even help the game?
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Dec 24, 2015 2:20 PM #1425163
I'd rather see more upgrades for melee units or reduced cooldowns on the current ones to bring melee units into the mid game instead. However that still wouldn't help out Albowtrosses which was the point of this thread.
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Dec 24, 2015 6:44 PM #1425194
It'd be a good idea to list every strength and weakness of the albows in one consolidated post so that it's not only an easy read but we can then use that to go off of.
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Dec 24, 2015 11:39 PM #1425232
Quote from AsePlayer
You know what would be crazy? If archers and bombers cost mana. Getting mana early could be viable as you would have advantage, but less advantage on eco. Fires and airs could get mana as well. Not a crazy amount, just a bit? Encourages more melee play, archidons and bombers can't pop out instantly, gives ele a window of time before bombers go and rekt their stuff, increase fire and air range if it costs mana? Idk. This is just me pulling crap out of my butt.


Could we then argree swords are better than crawlers
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Dec 25, 2015 12:53 AM #1425235
Kind of as crawlers vs swords alone is in favor of swords if we think about it only in that aspect.
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Dec 25, 2015 2:22 AM #1425244
Albow's strengths: High damage output, Flyer, Armored, Armor piercing, burn

Weaknesses: A bit costly, High population, Long que time, slow
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Dec 25, 2015 3:48 AM #1425250
One fun thing about albows is that they have the right amount of speed to chase and constantly fire on retreating giants. However, if you're taking an engagement on the map and are in a position to be chased by albows you've done something horribly wrong.
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Dec 25, 2015 4:51 AM #1425258
Yeah I noticed. Also fast enough to chase spellcasters.
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Dec 25, 2015 7:45 PM #1425339
Quote from Nyarlathotep
One fun thing about albows is that they have the right amount of speed to chase and constantly fire on retreating giants. However, if you're taking an engagement on the map and are in a position to be chased by albows you've done something horribly wrong.


Lol yes I agree entirely. XD
What happens if we increase their speed just slightly?
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Dec 25, 2015 8:55 PM #1425346
Ele has a harder time landing scorch and Chaos slightly harder landing bombs. OvO I don't think anything significant would happen so I'd say that would just be a fairly negligible Order buff.
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Dec 25, 2015 9:31 PM #1425351
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Ele has a harder time landing scorch and Chaos slightly harder landing bombs. OvO I don't think anything significant would happen so I'd say that would just be a fairly negligible Order buff.


Order has a hard time landing castle archer shots.
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Dec 25, 2015 11:50 PM #1425361
Why would you scorch albows when you can use just a few cycloids?
Bombs are pretty quick so I don't imagine it being too drastic myself. Perhaps making it easier to approach deads without too much fear of this.
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Dec 27, 2015 5:13 PM #1425645
I may have suggested this elsewhere, but how about giving the Albows the ability to deal slightly more damage against burning units?
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Dec 27, 2015 5:25 PM #1425647
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I may have suggested this elsewhere, but how about giving the Albows the ability to deal slightly more damage against burning units?

This^

It would add some nice Synergy with Magikill blast too.
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Dec 27, 2015 6:07 PM #1425648
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This^

It would add some nice Synergy with Magikill blast too.


How about the water cannot get burn damaged upon. lol.