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May 22, 2008 9:19 PM #139790
I don't have a religion at all, I don't believe in that stuff.
But some people do, and i respect that, and, to be honest, no one knows who or what created the universe, so beliefs are really important to them.

I personally think the Big Bang Theory is the most plausible, but yet again, its only my opinion, others might have a very different one.

:Oh No!: Even smiley has his religion!
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May 22, 2008 11:49 PM #139870
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Actually, religion is a pretty important world issue. It does matter for billions of people on this earth, I mean it pretty much deals with the meaning of life, and existence in itself and the creator of all life. I don't see how it could not be important. I mean really? Do you not see how much stuff has happened because of all of this?

And I like how you only call out me and ash. Not counting Steiner, Xelectroid, pagan, you, dudeman or any of the other regular debaters on this subject.

Don't ever compare me to you.
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May 23, 2008 12:22 AM #139903
Dragon, that was a damn low blow, and you should be ashamed.
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May 23, 2008 12:36 AM #139916
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Dragon, that was a damn low blow, and you should be ashamed.

I don't want to be put in a group with you and Jeremy just like I'm sure you wouldn't want to be put in a group with Hitler.
And I don't give a flying **** about your reply posts saying that "you're such a weak debater" and "don't attack other people" and shit.
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May 23, 2008 2:29 AM #139967
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It's like doing push-ups with my brain.

Except you gain nothing from it but useless knowledge which you will only use again when another thread like this comes up in 5 years. As, you'll still be here.
OH, GOODIE!
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I don't want to be put in a group with you and Jeremy just like I'm sure you wouldn't want to be put in a group with Hitler.
And I don't give a flying **** about your reply posts saying that "you're such a weak debater" and "don't attack other people" and shit.


I know the wasn't aimed anywhere near me, but,
I'd ****ing love to be associated with Hitler. That guy was ****ing awesome, he's a great role-model for all you nerds out there. He looks like a complete cock mongler yet manages to create a ****ing catastrophy and almost control the world. SHIT, that guy should be noticed more for what he achieved in a good way. ALPHA, MAN.
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May 23, 2008 2:45 AM #139970
No, I also gain the ability to reason more thoroughly, which will help me all the rest of my life.

@Dragon: Okay, then.
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May 23, 2008 3:17 AM #139984
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Except you gain nothing from it but useless knowledge which you will only use again when another thread like this comes up in 5 years. As, you'll still be here.
OH, GOODIE!


I know the wasn't aimed anywhere near me, but,
I'd ****ing love to be associated with Hitler. That guy was ****ing awesome, he's a great role-model for all you nerds out there. He looks like a complete cock mongler yet manages to create a ****ing catastrophy and almost control the world. SHIT, that guy should be noticed more for what he achieved in a good way. ALPHA, MAN.




I concur, he was pure genius... just to many drugs and not enough bible reading time made him go crazy (see other thread in general chat)
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May 23, 2008 5:20 AM #140025
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Don't ever compare me to you.


Why not? You debate this subject just as much as I do. Do you think your view is that much more righteous then mine? Please, get a grip. You're the one who is the problem here, not me.
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May 23, 2008 9:21 AM #140045
I don't think anyone is "above" religious debating.

It's a fair topic, and one that spawns the longest and most memorable debates. All other threads are not really worth it, because everyone either agrees or the topic is entirely opinion based.

I don't see how you can "not get why people debate about this". I, for one, hate it when people elevate religion above little things like internet debates because you're not meant to disagree with people's religion, which is bullshit in itself.
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May 23, 2008 10:21 AM #140065
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if we were discussing a broad topic of "religion vs. science" i would agree with you mantha, but we're not saying "should you believe in god or should you only follow science" this is a debate over the validity of evolutionary theory, steiner and doomdooer and others are saying "this is why evolution is wrong" and we on the other side are saying "no look this is why it's right." post like edward0's contribute nothing to this, so they're overlooked. if he had said "evolution doesn't make sense because X Y Z" then i or someone would have quoted him and told him what's wrong with his argument.

I see. You're one cool taco.

Enough with all the hostility guys. No debate is worth fighting over.

@Xelectroid: My opinion is stated in my revious posts, where I elaborated why I don't understand. I won't repeat.
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May 23, 2008 11:29 AM #140086
Im A Christian. I Believe That God Created Us. Where Did He Come From You Ask? I Dont Know. Atleast Its Better Than Your Theory, People Just Appeared Somehow From A Big Bang Billions Of Years Ago. Maybe You Would RATHER Have Been Made From Monkeys And Not A Perfect God. You Would RATHER Believe That There Is No God So You Can Do Whatever You Want And Not Go To Hel. If You Dont Believe In God Why Are You Trying So HArd To Prove You Dont. Can You Prove He Doesnt Exist? Nothing In The Bible Has EVER Been Disproved. Ofcourse You Will All Disagree With Me. You Will Swear And Say Youre Right And I Cant Change Your Minds You Can Never Force A Person To Stop His Beliefs. Oh And If Dinosaurs "Evolved" Into New Species, Where Are The Intermediate Species? Why Were There Creatures Found Where There Should Have Only Been "Simple" Life Forms? Why Arent There Monkeys Evolving Today? Who Can Answer Me With A Logical Answer Without Insulting God Or Me?
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May 23, 2008 11:47 AM #140090
I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.
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May 23, 2008 12:12 PM #140092
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Im A Christian. I Believe That God Created Us. Where Did He Come From You Ask? I Dont Know. Atleast Its Better Than Your Theory, People Just Appeared Somehow From A Big Bang Billions Of Years Ago. Maybe You Would RATHER Have Been Made From Monkeys And Not A Perfect God. You Would RATHER Believe That There Is No God So You Can Do Whatever You Want And Not Go To Hel. If You Dont Believe In God Why Are You Trying So HArd To Prove You Dont. Can You Prove He Doesnt Exist? Nothing In The Bible Has EVER Been Disproved. Ofcourse You Will All Disagree With Me. You Will Swear And Say Youre Right And I Cant Change Your Minds You Can Never Force A Person To Stop His Beliefs. Oh And If Dinosaurs "Evolved" Into New Species, Where Are The Intermediate Species? Why Were There Creatures Found Where There Should Have Only Been "Simple" Life Forms? Why Arent There Monkeys Evolving Today? Who Can Answer Me With A Logical Answer Without Insulting God Or Me?


It seems you were trying to type in all-caps. Nice try.

I'm sorry, but I don't feel like answering questions you could easily answer yourself with a quick google search.
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May 23, 2008 12:32 PM #140104
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Im A Christian. I Believe That God Created Us. Where Did He Come From You Ask? I Dont Know. Atleast Its Better Than Your Theory, People Just Appeared Somehow From A Big Bang Billions Of Years Ago.
Actually, that's the earth. Apes began evolving 10.000 years ago. From what i believe then...

Maybe You Would RATHER Have Been Made From Monkeys And Not A Perfect God.
A sadistic god you mean.

You Would RATHER Believe That There Is No God So You Can Do Whatever You Want And Not Go To Hel.
Maybe you didn't notice, but we're already in hell. I'd be better off dead then live, actually. Only reason i stay to live, is i'm to afraid to get myself over the balkony-rail-thingy.


If You Dont Believe In God Why Are You Trying So HArd To Prove You Dont.
Human-nature, smarty. We want to know everything. It's our natural hunger for knowledge.

Can You Prove He Doesnt Exist?
1. If he's there, why would there be so many religions, hating eachother, if they all should revolve around one god.
2. I'll tell you several names that contradict any god:
Bush
Bin Laden
Hitler
Hussein

Should i go on? I could give you names from guys from my class...


Nothing In The Bible Has EVER Been Disproved.
... Hmmm...

Ofcourse You Will All Disagree With Me. You Will Swear And Say Youre Right And I Cant Change Your Minds You Can Never Force A Person To Stop His Beliefs.
Okay, very interesting...

Oh And If Dinosaurs "Evolved" Into New Species, Where Are The Intermediate Species? Why Were There Creatures Found Where There Should Have Only Been "Simple" Life Forms?
How do you know there weren't?

Why Arent There Monkeys Evolving Today?
That's because of nature's biggest flaw:
Us.
Getting rid of all those forests kills many of 'em.
And keeping all animals in zoos is adapting the nature to the species. It's reversed evolution. They don't need to evolve.


Who Can Answer Me With A Logical Answer Without Insulting God Or Me?


Just read the Bold parts.
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May 23, 2008 1:11 PM #140110
Let me have a crack at it.

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Im A Christian. I Believe That God Created Us. Where Did He Come From You Ask? I Dont Know. Atleast Its Better Than Your Theory, People Just Appeared Somehow From A Big Bang Billions Of Years Ago.

You're right, people appearing suddenly from God is MUCH more believable.

And anyway, people didn't appear right after the Big Bang. Evolution isn't "somehow".


Maybe You Would RATHER Have Been Made From Monkeys And Not A Perfect God.

Yes. Personally I hate the thought that there is an omnipotent thing that is somehow "above" me.

You Would RATHER Believe That There Is No God So You Can Do Whatever You Want And Not Go To Hel.

That's right, because Atheists have no morals. All the Atheists in the world freely go around killing and stealing. Right? No. Atheists are different because they don't need to be TAUGHT their morals and they don't need the threat of hell to enforce them.

If You Dont Believe In God Why Are You Trying So HArd To Prove You Dont.

From you previous points I assume that you haven't read much and are making wild assumptions yourself. This is a debate about evolution, and we are simply taking part in it.

Can You Prove He Doesnt Exist? Nothing In The Bible Has EVER Been Disproved.

Nor had anything been proved. Well, maybe some unimportant details like the writers names or something. But words in a book, which is made up of contradictory second-hand evidence, doesn't prove nothing bro.

Ofcourse You Will All Disagree With Me. You Will Swear And Say Youre Right And I Cant Change Your Minds You Can Never Force A Person To Stop His Beliefs.

You can never force, but you can discuss it.

Oh And If Dinosaurs "Evolved" Into New Species, Where Are The Intermediate Species?

You're a ten year old who heard this somewhere and is blindly repeating it. You probably don't even know what it is. And there have been proofs, real proofs.

Why Were There Creatures Found Where There Should Have Only Been "Simple" Life Forms?Why Arent There Monkeys Evolving Today?

It takes ****ing ages to evolve. Way longer than humans have been observing monkeys. And plus, there is no pressure to evolve so they won't.

Who Can Answer Me With A Logical Answer Without Insulting God Or Me?


Apparently, everyone who has a brain. Even you fellow religious debates would probably rebut you.

If this is a joke, you're making fun of everyone here. So stop.
If this is serious, you're a joke. So stop.
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