A Theory Of Movement

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Jan 20, 2009 9:01 PM #341862
OkayOkay, I was thinking about this today. Whenever everything moves, when you run or throw a ball or when its raining, things are moving through space, right? Yeah. And this "Movement" stuff is something going from A to B crossing all the points inbetween it.
But, That would mean it'd have to cross through an infinite number of points an infinite amount of times.
Which is impossible.
But, the only other possibility is that we're effectively teleporting extremely small distances.
Which is just as impossible.
See where I'm coming from?
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Jan 20, 2009 9:07 PM #341870
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Jan 20, 2009 9:44 PM #341909
Quote from DNA
OkayOkay, I was thinking about this today. Whenever everything moves, when you run or throw a ball or when its raining, things are moving through space, right? Yeah. And this "Movement" stuff is something going from A to B crossing all the points inbetween it.
But, That would mean it'd have to cross through an infinite number of points an infinite amount of times.
Which is impossible.
But, the only other possibility is that we're effectively teleporting extremely small distances.
Which is just as impossible.
See where I'm coming from?


I understand what you are saying, and I have considered it before myself, but come to the conclusion that it's not impossible.

Being able to place a position on an infinite number of points is different from it actually traveling through an infinite number of points. After all, you have to give a measurement between points before determining which point something is on.

To illustrate my meaning, if you are discussing the points through which an object travels, you have to give a measurement by which to determine where the points actually are. So, if you travel a foot, and look at what points you traveled through, you have to say that each point is an inch away from every other point, or a half of an inch, or a millionth, and you can keep doing this, but can never say an infinityth of an inch.
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Jan 20, 2009 10:59 PM #341946
my theory of movment is that it never happened and its been staged by the goverment to raise taxes.
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Jan 21, 2009 12:39 AM #341995
Are the points in a given distance really infinite? I mean, you can magnify a space an infinite amount of times, but does the object really hit all of those points?
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Jan 21, 2009 12:41 AM #341996
It doesn't hit an infinite amount of points, but you can define an infinite amount of points that it hits.

If that makes sense.
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Jan 21, 2009 12:53 AM #342007
It isn't an infinite amount of points because it's not an endless amount. It stops at a certain spot, therefore it is not infinite.

It doesn't go on forever.
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Jan 21, 2009 12:55 AM #342009
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It doesn't hit an infinite amount of points, but you can define an infinite amount of points that it hits.

If that makes sense.

Yes, that makes perfect sense. What I'm saying is this: You can magnify something an infinte amount of times, so it is infinetley small, correct? Just like you can make something infinetly big, as far as we know, there are no boundaries, how could there be?

So wouldn't any sort of distance hit an infinte amount of point, since there are infintely small points that can divide into more infinetly small point?
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Jan 21, 2009 1:00 AM #342014
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Yes, that makes perfect sense. What I'm saying is this: You can magnify something an infinte amount of times, so it is infinetley small, correct? Just like you can make something infinetly big, as far as we know, there are no boundaries, how could there be?

So wouldn't any sort of distance hit an infinte amount of point, since there are infintely small points that can divide into more infinetly small point?


That's exactly what I mean by "you can define". You can specify a different measurement between two points in an infinite number of ways. But that's not the same as traveling through an infinite amount of space, like DNA was saying.
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Jan 21, 2009 1:03 AM #342016
Well couldn't you travel through a single point infintely? It is infinelty small, so couldn't something travel through it forever?
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Jan 21, 2009 1:20 AM #342024
Err... for an infinite amount of time? Yes, but it'd have to be infinitely long.
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Jan 21, 2009 1:34 AM #342031
If it took infinity to get the point, then wouldn't that mean you are stopped? Doesn't this have something to do with reference points? That way can track what your distance is. And you cant have no reference points even in the void of space. I'm just throwing this out there....
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Jan 21, 2009 1:35 AM #342032
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Err... for an infinite amount of time? Yes, but it'd have to be infinitely long.



It is infintely long. Think of it like this:

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It's like a tunnel being infintely long, and it's getting infinetly smaller.
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Jan 21, 2009 1:47 AM #342045
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Yes, that makes perfect sense. What I'm saying is this: You can magnify something an infinte amount of times, so it is infinetley small, correct? Just like you can make something infinetly big, as far as we know, there are no boundaries, how could there be?

So wouldn't any sort of distance hit an infinte amount of point, since there are infintely small points that can divide into more infinetly small point?

No, you can magnify something a certain amount of times before you hit something else, you then magnify that, and that and that and that until there is nothing left to magnify and your just zooming in on something so ridiculously small its not even comprehendable.
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Jan 21, 2009 1:52 AM #342050
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No, you can magnify something a certain amount of times before you hit something else, you then magnify that, and that and that and that until there is nothing left to magnify and your just zooming in on something so ridiculously small its not even comprehendable.

I agree, how does that prove me wrong?