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Thank you for solidifying my assumption that you're uneducated

Because there was so much to pick through in your post, right? You basically said the exact same thing twice, and I chose to quote the second half.

Quote from Brownoser

1. To be honest, if marijuana is legalized, it will be sold by Marlboro and Camel. There won't be any new jobs.

2. I'm sorry, but do you personally know 1,000,000 people? Even if it's a small percent, it shouldn't be hard to see that it is, in fact, a big number.

You think that they won't have to hire a lot of people to help with a second MAJOR crop. There will be some new job, dumbass.

As stated before,
they can get a job in fast food,
rather that or die?

and exactly what percentage of america are drug dealers to validate the fact that if all of them are buying nice things then the economy would have this big turn-around?

You still haven't acknowledged the commercialization and subsequent taxation of marijuana that would come from legalization, mostly because the impact that would have when compared to "dealers buying nice things" is a bit more economically beneficial than I think you want to admit.

I really agree with Wartooth, I think you're taking a completely biased view on this for being a dealer yourself.

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You still haven't acknowledged the commercialization and subsequent taxation of marijuana that would come from legalization

Because taxation is a good thing? If marijuana were taxed by the government, it would probably end up being more costly than it is on the streets.

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What does that have to do with the economy? Your entire first post dealt with the economic benefits to marijuana, I'm saying legalization would be better because of the taxes on the drug itself, and suddenly you don't want it legalized because it'll cost more?

Well, it's already helping the economy as I've shown you, and taxation would make it more expensive, so why not just keep it as it is? Why fix something that's not broken?

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Well, it's already helping the economy as I've shown you, and taxation would make it more expensive, so why not just keep it as it is? Why fix something that's not broken?

It helps the economy now indirectly, by giving people the funds to buy things that are taxed. If it's legalized, marijuana would be taxed directly. Taxes on cigarettes right now are generally higher than taxes on other products.

That money would go straight to the government, a hell of a lot more of it. Every commercial marijuana purchase would be money in the government's pockets, as opposed to a dealer being able to buy shit with drug money. Economically it's the better choice.

Quote from Exilement

It helps the economy now indirectly, by giving people the funds to buy things that are taxed. If it's legalized, marijuana would be taxed directly. Taxes on cigarettes right now are generally higher than taxes on other products.

That money would go straight to the government, a hell of a lot more of it. Every commercial marijuana purchase would be money in the government's pockets, as opposed to a dealer being able to buy shit with drug money. Economically it's the better choice.

Let's say if you were to buy a pack of gum for 50 cents from a friend, and all of a sudden that same pack of gum goes on sale at your nearest convenience store, but for $1.50, would you buy that pack of gum from the convenience store just because you'd know the money goes directly to the government?

Quote from Brownoser

Let's say if you were to buy a pack of gum for 50 cents from a friend, and all of a sudden that same pack of gum goes on sale at your nearest convenience store, but for $1.50, would you buy that pack of gum from the convenience store just because you'd know the money goes directly to the government?

To tell you the truth: It will NOT help the economy!

If your primary argument depends on the fact that marijuana legalization won't help the economy, you can't say that any examples in which it would aren't valid reasons to legalize it because you don't want prices to go up. They obviously would, but economically the government would get more money. Isn't that what your whole first post and graph was related to? The government and economy being in better shape because it's illegal? Higher prices doesn't mean it'd be an economic drawback if the money spent on it can go towards something useful beyond dealers buying shit.

The price of marijuana is not going to triple, a better example would be something like 55 cents, in which case if I cared about the economy as much as your first post made you seem to, I would rather spend that 5 cents. You can't say marijuana should stay illegal because of cheaper prices, that's not a valid universal argument against it.

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Because taxation is a good thing? If marijuana were taxed by the government, it would probably end up being more costly than it is on the streets.

Saying that it would cost more is completely asinine,

the price would be far less being that there is substantially less risk associated with selling it when it is legal than when it is not legal. the same reason why alcohol prices skyrocketed during prohibition time. if you can get locked up in jail by a cop for selling something, you are going to charge more for the product because of the risk involved in doing so. even if the demand for marijuana did go up after it was legalized, the supply of it would also go up as it would not be against the law to sell it. even with government taxation it would still be cheaper.

whoops,
quoted wrong person,
meant the OP
it seems as if I had deleted this part of this post,
and seeing as it is completely relevant to this subject,
you are a jackass Brownoser.

Quote from Exilement

The price of marijuana is not going to triple, a better example would be something like 55 cents, in which case if I cared about the economy as much as your first post made you seem to, I would rather spend that 5 cents. You can't say marijuana should stay illegal because of cheaper prices, that's not a valid universal argument against it.

Have you ever heard of an example? It doesn't have to be perfectly accurate, it just has to remotely compare to the actual topic at hand. And, by the way, you haven't answered the question.

Quote from Wartooth

Dumbass

what the ****? I understand that, I'm running with his example to show that even if the prices were increased it'd still ultimately benefit the economy, which he seemed to make a priority in his first post. what the actual cost would be is irrelevant if his concern is the economy, so I didn't bother arguing for that. I don't see how that makes me a dumbass.

edit: oh

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Have you ever heard of an example? It doesn't have to be perfectly accurate, it just has to remotely compare to the actual topic at hand. And, by the way, you haven't answered the question.

Yeah I did.

Brownoser

Why are you avoiding me altogether,
I used an example,
live up to your ego by telling me how I'm wrong...

Prices skyrocketed during the prohibition for alcohol,
it can be mass grown,
so why wouldn't it be as cheap as cigarettes, and why not just grow it yourself considering it'd be legal and it's an easy herb to grow?

Sorry exilement,
I meant to quote brownoser, not you,
I actually thought I had quoted him,
fix'd.

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Have you ever heard of an example? It doesn't have to be perfectly accurate, it just has to remotely compare to the actual topic at hand. And, by the way, you haven't answered the question.

that wasn't an example. that was just a hyperbole