CAN money buy you happiness?
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Jan 19, 2012 12:52 AM #579239
Also how do you know that an infinite area contains infinite different things? It could easily just be the same thing over and over an infinite amount of times.
Jan 19, 2012 1:25 AM #579246
Everyone seems to be talking about "do you NEED money to be happy?". No.
The question of the thread is "CAN money buy you happiness?". Yes, to a certain extent.
Explanation of that is, eg. A person finds themself to be unattractive, so that person buys cosmetics to make themself look better. But once you wash off the make-up, the person is again unhappy with how they look. But if instead the person decided that they were happy with how they look (regardless of what others think), the person would be happier than with the stuff money bought.
hehe...notice the gender neutral stance I took there
The question of the thread is "CAN money buy you happiness?". Yes, to a certain extent.
Explanation of that is, eg. A person finds themself to be unattractive, so that person buys cosmetics to make themself look better. But once you wash off the make-up, the person is again unhappy with how they look. But if instead the person decided that they were happy with how they look (regardless of what others think), the person would be happier than with the stuff money bought.
hehe...notice the gender neutral stance I took there
Jan 19, 2012 1:44 AM #579248
No part of the definition of happiness requires it to be an ongoing feeling that lasts for a significant amount of time. If you are happy even for a single instant, you were still happy for some amount of time.
Jan 19, 2012 1:53 AM #579249
:/ imo It's not really worth anything just to be happy for a single instant. I guess depending on how materialistic you are is how much happiness you can derive from buying things.
Jan 19, 2012 2:00 AM #579251
Money can buy me, and I am happiness.
Jan 19, 2012 2:05 AM #579252
Can't be assed to read the entire thread. But I must say, Money can buy happiness, to an extent. Like, I could buy myself a bunch of things I always wanted to make me happy for a time, but eventually I would grow bored of those things, buy new ones, it's a cycle basically.
Jan 19, 2012 2:44 AM #579253
Quote from ChristianEaterMoney can buy me, and I am happiness.
My honest first thought was, "You're either a hooker or prozac"
Jan 19, 2012 10:47 AM #579302
yes it brought me happiness:)
Jan 19, 2012 12:10 PM #579334
Quote from Blue VXMy honest first thought was, "You're either a hooker or prozac"
Yes, man bro, you aren't noob at all.
Jan 19, 2012 3:31 PM #579381
LOL, so the hate route it is!!! this ought to be fun!!!
Lazy, yes, I didnt have much time.
So if you want, I will refine it (see end of thread)
furthermore, it is deductive, so you cannot say it doesnt work if you agree with each of the premises, and furthermore, I believe you will agree with the prremises of my refined version (see below)
AKA: you can't think of one, and dont want to admit defeat
Now, is this less "lazy" for you?
REFINED ARGUMENT:
Premise 1) Time is infinite
premise 2) an infinite number of events will occur
premise 3) if an infinite number of events occur, at some time or other every logically possible event will take place
premise 4) Money making you happy is logically possible
conclusion1) money making someone happy has happened
conclusion2) therefore money can make you happy
That better?
it is a deductive argument, so unless you can falsify at least one premise, you cannot deny the argument.
So, please, tell me which premises you agree with, and which ones you are going to attack.
So far, fusion has attacked premise 3, with this basic argument:
"if an infinite number of events occur, it could easily just be the same event occuring over and over an infinite amount of times, rathe rthan every event occuring once"
To this I say that you are partially right: in fact: every possible event will occur an infinite number of times, over and over.
it is mathematically proven that no matter how unlikley something is, in an infinite situation, it will occur an infinite number of times. It's a philisoophical truth, if you dont accept that, it's your business. it's hard to put down in words, but I thin that if you look at it logically, you will agree with me.
I will consult with my philosophy teacher, and give you the proof tommorow.
for now, tell me which premises you disagree with, otherwise the argument still stands.
Quote from FusionThat's the laziest fucking explanation I've ever heard.
Lazy, yes, I didnt have much time.
So if you want, I will refine it (see end of thread)
furthermore, it is deductive, so you cannot say it doesnt work if you agree with each of the premises, and furthermore, I believe you will agree with the prremises of my refined version (see below)
Quote from JutsuI uhhh, I agree, I won't even justify it with a retort of any variety.
AKA: you can't think of one, and dont want to admit defeat
Now, is this less "lazy" for you?
REFINED ARGUMENT:
Premise 1) Time is infinite
premise 2) an infinite number of events will occur
premise 3) if an infinite number of events occur, at some time or other every logically possible event will take place
premise 4) Money making you happy is logically possible
conclusion1) money making someone happy has happened
conclusion2) therefore money can make you happy
That better?
it is a deductive argument, so unless you can falsify at least one premise, you cannot deny the argument.
So, please, tell me which premises you agree with, and which ones you are going to attack.
So far, fusion has attacked premise 3, with this basic argument:
"if an infinite number of events occur, it could easily just be the same event occuring over and over an infinite amount of times, rathe rthan every event occuring once"
To this I say that you are partially right: in fact: every possible event will occur an infinite number of times, over and over.
it is mathematically proven that no matter how unlikley something is, in an infinite situation, it will occur an infinite number of times. It's a philisoophical truth, if you dont accept that, it's your business. it's hard to put down in words, but I thin that if you look at it logically, you will agree with me.
I will consult with my philosophy teacher, and give you the proof tommorow.
for now, tell me which premises you disagree with, otherwise the argument still stands.
Jan 19, 2012 4:07 PM #579395
Quote from Blue VXMy honest first thought was, "You're either a hooker or prozac"
Close, Viagra.
Jan 19, 2012 5:09 PM #579413
so a bit of both really?
Jan 19, 2012 5:42 PM #579421
Quote from walker90234so a bit of both really?
I like me a big American man. You be mine big boi?
Jan 19, 2012 6:43 PM #579445
Money can make you happy, but it is not guaranteed 100% to do so. People who care more about personal things, like love and friendship,rather than materialistic things has the most chances of not being happy from money.
Jan 19, 2012 6:58 PM #579451
Quote from ChristianEaterI like me a big American man. You be mine big boi?
ah, you see I would, but I'm british, so I dont really fit your criteria :(