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Im sorry leokill.I can be a prick sometimes. Do u want me to put a bandage where I hurt u?:D

The fact that you resort in to insulting the intelligence of the one you're debating against makes you look like an insecure imbecile. You have made a complete fool out of yourself.

I didn't even have to try.

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The fact that you resort in to insulting the intelligence of the one you're debating against makes you look like an insecure imbecile. You have made a complete fool out of yourself.

I didn't even have to try.

Dude he said sorry and admited that he can be a prick. I think that's enough.

I actallu meant that apology. And all the things I have said on this forum don't neccesarily reflect the way I think. and thank you leokill for saying that.wow.I just realized how annoying and off topic this was.and tech,don't bother.

Actually leokill, u did try.but that doesn't matter anymore.so I think we all need to calm down and have a cup of tea.

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Dude he said sorry and admited that he can be a prick. I think that's enough.

You can't deny that what leo said it's not true u.u

But yeah... Get back on topic guys

Maybe I could find a deathnote from a different dimension and use it to kill all the criminals. It would be a quick and painless death penalty, nobody would know it was me. So nobody would suspect a thing.

I'd also take care to write down the names of everyone on this forum <3

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Maybe I could find a deathnote from a different dimension and use it to kill all the criminals. It would be a quick and painless death penalty, nobody would know it was me. So nobody would suspect a thing.

I'd also take care to write down the names of everyone on this forum <3

"But if you kill all the bad people... you will be the only bastard left."

Ok light yagam-i mean bl3u

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"But if you kill all the bad people... you will be the only bastard left."

Its k. I'll be here... Alone... Happy... With my ponies

And my weed

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Actually revenge is a means of obtaining personal satisfaction, while punishment is meant to teach a lesson. The lines between the two can become blurred but there is a difference. Also by definition revenge is performed by the person that was hurt by the wrongdoing, not a third party seeking justice.

revenge- Inflict hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong done to oneself.

So if the justice system keeps everything logical, and doesn't inflict punishment as an act of self satisfaction, it shouldn't be considered revenge.

The bolded part is wrong. I couldn't find a definition anywhere that mentions a "third party".
http://www.thefreedictionary.com
Revenge To inflict punishment in return for (injury or insult).
Punishment The act or an instance of punishing. Punish To subject to a penalty for an offense, sin, or fault.

How do you separate revenge and punishment? According to the definition I found of revenge, punishment is involved in revenge. But if you consider revenge as a means to find personal satisfaction, how can a justice system control someones emotion? While they do have different definitions you must also take into consideration that there exists an overlap. If you consider justice as punishing people for their wrong doings, the justice system you described is implausible, as the criminal is being punished in return for hurting others.

Furthermore, not all punishments are meant to teach people something, rather it can simply be to satisfy oneself. While this is true according to the Psychological definition, if you consider execution as a punishment, I ask what is there to learn? The criminal already knows what they are doing is wrong, but by killing them, that isn't teaching them anything new or reinforcing anything. Rather it is depriving them of the chance of understanding the lessons and avoid recommitting the crime.

People can find revenge through punishing those that deserve it and thus, can also find a sense of personal satisfaction. I think that Exilement is correct in his reasoning.

What is more interesting in my opinion is discussing whether revenge can be a form of justice.

I don't see the repercussions of putting the death penalty into place, other than moral standards. Clear out space, save tax dollars, that sorta thing.

I'm of the opinion that society needs objective and strict rules that do not change based on morality/justice/who's performing the action.
I think that if you say "taking another person's life" is wrong, then that should extend across the board, otherwise you're essentially giving one person/group more inherent rights than another (the Judiciary/the Government), which I don't agree with from the start.

Consider a person who murders a serial killer. Technically he should be given the death penalty under some hypothetical law. We then kill this person. The problem then is that we have killed someone for doing exactly the same thing as the act of killing him, the only difference being that when society kills this man there is some source of authority, and it's that which I don't agree with.

That's just a very unlikely hypothetical, but it demonstrates the principle of the need for laws that don't contradict themselves and have double standards based purely on whether or not the tyranny of the majority thinks that the person deserves it.

A guy killed another guy, and he got killed because he killed another guy, and then the guy who killed the other guy who killed the first guy gets killed because killing is bad and it cycles over again

I don't like that argument. The bad thing about the death penalty is that it DOESN'T cycle, because the state has the authority to kill the person, whereas that person did not have the authority. My point is that I disagree with that sort of contradictory source of authority as I think you need an objective cover-all rule with these sorts of things.

hm, but i dont know if execution is particularly painful. Im not dead you know