wRHG Discussion & Help

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Dec 7, 2013 1:57 AM #1119591
Alright, as far as names go, I guess I'll just be my own example for the type of method I'd recommend. My current wRHG is Roy "Hollywood" Hope, so take it how you will.

Unlike Triss, in my mind gimmick/ability/theme mean nothing for the name.

Eh, screw it, I'll just use myself as my nickname.

People actually call me Crank in real life. My brother calls me Crank, it's my legitimate nickname.

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Does this mean I'm cranky, weak, a meth-head or intense?
No.

Crank was part of a childhood rhymey name my parents called me. Daniel Spaniel Spanky Crank. I don't know how they came up with it, but Crank stuck.

If you want a good name, look at the history of your character to find it.

Alright, now I'll walk you through Hollywood. He fights with blowguns. Can you tell this by the name? No. Do I care? Significantly less.

Before he joined wRHG he planned on being an actor and acquired the nickname Hollywood in drama club. Upon joining it, he stuck to what was familiar to him, rather than just becoming Dart or something. It just seemed to make sense.

Third option of course, is just pick an actual name and make it stand out. Anyone who's been around since FA knows Kyra, and I don't just mean the username.

You don't need a reworded name to have a good one, and in fact, it comes off a bit bland in my mind. Blaze the Pyro is somewhat implied. Why bother? Consume is a bit different. Who is this, a cannibal? Oh! He's some psycho who likes to watch flames eat what others hold dear! That makes him a moderately terrible person.

A name is going to be the first impression here, and it's just going to be dull if you make it the power. You can make it reveal the personality, who the person once was, showcase a human element, or just identity.



EDIT: Wow. First I lose the ability to write short stories and now I can't even make short posts? I'm not sure how I feel about this...
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Dec 7, 2013 4:38 AM #1119669
Well, you might be right Crank, and maybe I'm PARTIALLY wrong.
And you still can write short stories. No need to be so humble. I love your story, I really do. Short posts? Maybe no.

Anyway Bluur, basically do you know what's name is? It's the symbol of the character you're making.
Like what Crank emphasize before, it gives the first impression of your character to the audiences.
It also showcases what image you wanted to picture on your head, is it joyful, or is it dark?

About themes, I'm correct and incorrect at the same time. Gimmick doesn't influence your character, but give a sense of COMBINATION to it. Basically, names that bonded well with abilities, your writing style, and your backstory, can conclude with how good and fast your writing is. A complicated name, means that your story must be hard to read and write, while simple name is, well, much easier to write and read.

That's why most people here gave short names, except Azure Kite (who actually lives up to his name) and several others.

Basically, you don't need to think hard about the name. Just mutter random names that occur to your head when talking about your character, and pick one that seems correct. Trust your gut instinct. I trust my instinct, and I let go of my logic, so I don't have any problem anymore. Remember, just spout random names, and choose the one that your felt quite petite for your wRHG. Let your imagination flow. Find the magic words.

And once you does, you can give it nicknames. But that's another story.
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Dec 7, 2013 6:49 AM #1119722
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Well, you might be right Crank, and maybe I'm PARTIALLY wrong.
And you still can write short stories. No need to be so humble. I love your story, I really do. Short posts? Maybe no.

Anyway Bluur, basically do you know what's name is? It's the symbol of the character you're making.
Like what Crank emphasize before, it gives the first impression of your character to the audiences.
It also showcases what image you wanted to picture on your head, is it joyful, or is it dark?

About themes, I'm correct and incorrect at the same time. Gimmick doesn't influence your character, but give a sense of COMBINATION to it. Basically, names that bonded well with abilities, your writing style, and your backstory, can conclude with how good and fast your writing is. A complicated name, means that your story must be hard to read and write, while simple name is, well, much easier to write and read.

That's why most people here gave short names, except Azure Kite (who actually lives up to his name) and several others.

Basically, you don't need to think hard about the name. Just mutter random names that occur to your head when talking about your character, and pick one that seems correct. Trust your gut instinct. I trust my instinct, and I let go of my logic, so I don't have any problem anymore. Remember, just spout random names, and choose the one that your felt quite petite for your wRHG. Let your imagination flow. Find the magic words.

And once you does, you can give it nicknames. But that's another story.


Not true. Having a long, hard to pronounce name can actually add to the story if you're good enough... if no one in the entire scene actually says my wRHG's full name, it adds to the sense that he is feared or revered. So complicated names aren't all bad.
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Dec 7, 2013 9:24 AM #1119753
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Not true. Having a long, hard to pronounce name can actually add to the story if you're good enough... if no one in the entire scene actually says my wRHG's full name, it adds to the sense that he is feared or revered. So complicated names aren't all bad.

I'm not implying long names is bad, I'm saying it add complexity to the story.
Which is hard to maintain when you're a new writer. It's not impossible, take a look at Azure, he done it quite well.

Bluur, just pick the name you wanted the best.
Now let me leave it at that, since I won't argue no more XP

P.S: Crank's still right tho.
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Dec 7, 2013 4:22 PM #1119904
Quote from Wyrmspawn
Not true. Having a long, hard to pronounce name can actually add to the story if you're good enough... if no one in the entire scene actually says my wRHG's full name, it adds to the sense that he is feared or revered. So complicated names aren't all bad.


I won't argue with this, but if you're going to have one make sure it has a purpose, and put a lot of thought into the name. Bare minimum, it has to look pronounceable.

Also, my crack about not being able to write short stories had nothing to do with my writing ability Triss, it was just that they've gotten much longer over time!
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Dec 7, 2013 4:47 PM #1119916
While we're still on the subject of names, here's how I come up with mine:
1. Random Generator
1.1 Butcher the results until you have something that works
1.2 Make it fit for a particular nationality (Rudolf Serafin = Polish, Mira Honeybourne = British)
1.3 Ordinary & Realistic/Common names (John Bradford, Kelly Bishop)

2. Alliteration or Puns (Rita Risanna R. Ricarda, Voltsgrenadier)
3. Adaptation of an existing name

4. Make it mean something
4.1 Foreign words that mean something, even if it's slightly unrelated (Nanashi Gakusha = Nameless Scholar, she's a cosplayer)
4.2 A reference to something

5. Any random word you can find in a dictionary (Octal, Sanguine, Hypnos)

6. Let your creativity spawn random syllables, then use your logic to beat those syllables into a workable form. (That's how I came up with the name 'Culexis')
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Dec 8, 2013 1:11 AM #1120109
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I won't argue with this, but if you're going to have one make sure it has a purpose, and put a lot of thought into the name. Bare minimum, it has to look pronounceable.

Also, my crack about not being able to write short stories had nothing to do with my writing ability Triss, it was just that they've gotten much longer over time!
But your quality is better than mine ;-;

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6. Let your creativity spawn random syllables, then use your logic to beat those syllables into a workable form. (That's how I came up with the name 'Culexis')
I suppost this is quite vulgar, but I snickered at the name Cumexis.

Anyway, Bluur, just follow you heart. Let it fly like a firefly. (Ok now I'm being melodramatical)
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Dec 8, 2013 2:32 AM #1120179
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But your quality is better than mine ;-;

I suppost this is quite vulgar, but I snickered at the name Cumexis.

Anyway, Bluur, just follow you heart. Let it fly like a firefly. (Ok now I'm being melodramatical)


Okay, thanks for the advice. I feel like a noob. This really shouldnt be hard for me but I guess it is.

I was thinking of a character that duplicates the oponents abilities and a brief search gave me "Xerox*. I actually like that.
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Dec 9, 2013 2:18 AM #1120682
General forum question, I suppose: Is there any way to not get logged out in the midst of something?
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Dec 9, 2013 2:52 AM #1120705
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General forum question, I suppose: Is there any way to not get logged out in the midst of something?
Err...tick the 'Remember Me?' checkbox when logging in...?
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Dec 9, 2013 3:07 AM #1120714
Actually thought that box just meant I could leave and come back without logging in. Well, danke schön~!

EDIT: Oh, look at that. I'm still logged in. Magic!

EDIt2: STILL logged in.
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Dec 9, 2013 6:02 PM #1120972
You don't need a nick-name for your character if you don't want one, but I do recommend you have some sort of characterization/occupation for him that allows you to refer to him without naming him because it can help stop you from committing the awful sin of word repetition.
So let's say Bob Murphy is a psychic. Instead of going "Bob did this, Bob did that, Bob did it." or "Bob did this, Murphy did that, Bob did it." you can say "Bob did this, Bob did that, the psychic did it."
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Dec 9, 2013 7:36 PM #1120999
To go off of what TopHat said, it helps to develop their appearance and character as well, since it gives you a lot of information to use to refer to a character beyond just their name.
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Dec 15, 2013 3:27 PM #1124498
Hey guys, I'm new to this area of the forum. I heard of wRHGs in the RHG section where my guy is, and I've always liked reading, so I thought I might as well take up some writing. So I translated my RHG over here and here I am. What's up, folks?

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You don't need a nick-name for your character if you don't want one, but I do recommend you have some sort of characterization/occupation for him that allows you to refer to him without naming him because it can help stop you from committing the awful sin of word repetition.
So let's say Bob Murphy is a psychic. Instead of going "Bob did this, Bob did that, Bob did it." or "Bob did this, Murphy did that, Bob did it." you can say "Bob did this, Bob did that, the psychic did it."


That's a good idea, I'll do that with my guy.
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Dec 15, 2013 5:34 PM #1124550
Well we're glad to have you! I'm doing pretty solid, looking forward to having my first battle in a while.

I'm considering making sort of a Hunting Grounds type thread too, just because a lot of the time people sit around and wait to be challenged, or challenge a bunch of people who aren't available and lose encouragement. I keep going back and forth on it though, because I feel like it'd be convenient, but at the same time redundant and unnecessary.