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Oct 30, 2016 6:11 PM #1465441
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If it isent makeing money

Theirfore it isent viable to work on

Theirfore it isent being coded at all. Then tell us. All we want to know as a community is if he has walked away completely.

We won't be disappointed just tell us!


I think SE could easily be viable $$$$... part of the reason it isn't is because the game has been so thoroughly neglected/mismanaged... as Spartan O and Gaismail and I used to chat about it, and a few other players... absolutely fantastic idea... terrible implementation and management...
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Oct 30, 2016 11:50 PM #1465500
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implying se isnt making money

And you're implying that it is? LOL Okay then.

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Is SE coded in Action Script?

No, actually it was made in an old version of flash that is no longer supported/completely outdatted and somewhat difficult to find legally. And apparently, it's also extremely difficult to update SE to a more modern day version of flash.

And it is being worked on, just, not constantly, not to mention it's not the first priority, or the second, or third, if I had to guess, I'd say it's a solid 12th.
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Oct 31, 2016 4:28 AM #1465511
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Not to fully defend him or anything, CJ is an animator, yes, but that's his job. Jobs are used to make money. If something isn't making money, why continue to work on it when you could work on something that will? He owns several sites and projects, and is working on even more as we speak (maybe not at this very literal second, but you get the idea). If any of you have a resume in programming & animating, feel free to let me know, and I'll put your name forward to Brock/CJ so they can consider letting you in on the SE development team.


There's a lot wrong with your post and kinda seems like you're trying to pull a fast one on us. If something isn't making money you shouldn't just abandon it, especially something that people invested time and money into. Instead of looking at the game and analyzing why it isn't making money, he just moved on. When in reality it's not making money because of flaws within the game and marketing. Be realistic, is it really right to charge people for a game that flawed and gets no attention from the Devs? Sure there going to always be that percentage of stupid people who will fall victim and buy into it, but as a consumer I'm going to warn against that, as the rest of the community should. Stop supporting their product if their not going to pay attention to it. Not many people would be enthusiastic about working for someone who conducts business like that.

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Until then, keep me updated on game breaking bugs, and wait until they get fixed.


To say that is very disrespectful to the whole community. You talk as if there aren't current game breaking bugs within the game. And you talk as if the community hasn't been complaining about them for over a year. But yet you still expect people to sit around and pay for the product? This is a joke right?
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Oct 31, 2016 4:51 AM #1465514
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There's a lot wrong with your post and kinda seems like you're trying to pull a fast one on us. If something isn't making money you shouldn't just abandon it, especially something that people invested time and money into. Instead of looking at the game and analyzing why it isn't making money, he just moved on. When in reality it's not making money because of flaws within the game and marketing. Be realistic, is it really right to charge people for a game that flawed and gets no attention from the Devs? Sure there going to always be that percentage of stupid people who will fall victim and buy into it, but as a consumer I'm going to warn against that, as the rest of the community should. Stop supporting their product if their not going to pay attention to it. Not many people would be enthusiastic about working for someone who conducts business like that.

If a product isn't making money, a business will usually do one of several things, maybe a few them; Advertise the product better, put the product on sale, create a new variation of the product, or as you said, abandon it. That is business. Businesses are designed to make money. If something is costing you more money than it's worth, why continue working on it?* You don't put all your eggs into one basket, and you don't focus on the basket that has a hole in it, when you have a perfectly good basket next to it.

To say that is very disrespectful to the whole community. You talk as if there aren't current game breaking bugs within the game. And you talk as if the community hasn't been complaining about them for over a year. But yet you still expect people to sit around and pay for the product? This is a joke right?

I'm sure there are, but unfortunately, I don't know about the majority of them because people either a) don't post about them or b) post completely useless shit directly after them and I skip it because it's irrelevant.

*Now, someone might read that and think "Why don't they just remove the game then?" and I believe the reason is, it's not costing them too much money for the upkeep of the game, it would instead cost them money to work on it. What I mean by that is that the amount of time and effort they would have to put into this game to make it as big as it once was, or to fix it fully, is not worth the return.

Also, I feel as I should point out; These are my words/views and in no way represent the devs.
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Oct 31, 2016 5:06 AM #1465516
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And you're implying that it is? LOL Okay then.


Pretty sure that it did, and will if they fix the fucking game

unless they're looking to make some big dosh
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Oct 31, 2016 6:41 AM #1465519
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Pretty sure that it did, and will if they fix the fucking game

unless they're looking to make some big dosh

How much do you think it was making? Before and after including the cost for maintenance/upkeep (Server Costs), paychecks for the team, and paying for ads on other sites.
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Oct 31, 2016 8:34 AM #1465520
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And you're implying that it is? LOL Okay then.


No, actually it was made in an old version of flash that is no longer supported/completely outdatted and somewhat difficult to find legally. And apparently, it's also extremely difficult to update SE to a more modern day version of flash.

Gosh Adobe and their proprietary formats. I don't know ActionScript very well but I imagine I could pick it up. Adobe Flash's UI though I have no chance with.

When inevitability someone, probably Apple, decide to stop supporting Flash on desktops and if the creators want to port SE to html5/js I'm up for helping.
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Oct 31, 2016 10:14 AM #1465521
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How much do you think it was making? Before and after including the cost for maintenance/upkeep (Server Costs), paychecks for the team, and paying for ads on other sites.


enough to benefit them
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Oct 31, 2016 9:06 PM #1465544
Happy spooky day everyone
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Oct 31, 2016 10:29 PM #1465547
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If a product isn't making money, a business will usually do one of several things, maybe a few them; Advertise the product better, put the product on sale, create a new variation of the product, or as you said, abandon it. That is business. Businesses are designed to make money. If something is costing you more money than it's worth, why continue working on it?* You don't put all your eggs into one basket, and you don't focus on the basket that has a hole in it, when you have a perfectly good basket next to it.

I'm sure there are, but unfortunately, I don't know about the majority of them because people either a) don't post about them or b) post completely useless shit directly after them and I skip it because it's irrelevant.

*Now, someone might read that and think "Why don't they just remove the game then?" and I believe the reason is, it's not costing them too much money for the upkeep of the game, it would instead cost them money to work on it. What I mean by that is that the amount of time and effort they would have to put into this game to make it as big as it once was, or to fix it fully, is not worth the return.

Also, I feel as I should point out; These are my words/views and in no way represent the devs.


Hate to admit, but Archy is almost completely right. To say people don't post about the bugs is a ridiculous claim, like absolutely ridiculous...

For the devs to keep the game up with known, significant issues because it doesn't cost more to maintain than the revenue it brings in is pretty shameful.
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Nov 1, 2016 4:57 AM #1465573
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Happy spooky day everyone


well spooky halloween day to you too

why do people say "happy" halloween day? i don't get it.
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Nov 1, 2016 10:26 AM #1465579
Medusa stoned him ! lol
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Nov 1, 2016 10:41 AM #1465581
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Hate to admit, but Archy is almost completely right. To say people don't post about the bugs is a ridiculous claim, like absolutely ridiculous...

For the devs to keep the game up with known, significant issues because it doesn't cost more to maintain than the revenue it brings in is pretty shameful.


How bout this for a game breaking glitch that has been reported repeatedly Tec; double tornado bug which Ele players have been abusing for well over a year or longer.

www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay13504619&version=2.29
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Nov 1, 2016 11:20 AM #1465584
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How bout this for a game breaking glitch that has been reported repeatedly Tec; double tornado bug which Ele players have been abusing for well over a year or longer.

www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay13504619&version=2.29

XDD
http://darkingdom.enjin.com/forum/m/37252426/viewthread/28831339-got-him-lol-mormegilorder-vs-megaltele/page/1/post/last
look at this .
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Nov 1, 2016 1:11 PM #1465586
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Yeah, pretty much we all know cheaters brazenly cheat on SE. No surprises there... been going on for years...
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