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I obviously meant for the FX you silly, no one with a year of animation experience can make those fx without tracing them. I don't know if I'm being too mean, but I kinda lost a little of respect for DK after what he did :l.

You never know, he might have practiced entirely on FX in a year and not on movements...

Quote from Fordz

You never know, he might have practiced entirely on FX in a year and not on movements...

He admitted it tho....

Oh well.

Wow O_O
Another animation that inspires meh :3

Despite all the claims of rotoscoping stated and everyone discussing about it on IRC, I still enjoyed what DanmarK had in store for us. Great job!

If several of the explosions actually have been copied from various anime, then he sure had me fooled, haha.

ok... tnx for the positive and negative comments i mean yeah i deserve to lost your respect.... yeah rotoscoping and releasing it by my name sure is bad...
but also, from there, i learn how to create efx way far others...
yes i rotoscope two clips. from that video xero shared.... but all the remaining efx are made by my own ideas,hard work and patience...
@fordz
yes i practice efx than movements so i drastically improve on that field
@camilla
sorry for disappointing.. T_T

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByxhwBrOImE

heres a sample tut... before i go.. bye

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I don't think it should really matter if some were inspired by anime.

Inspired is one thing... Tracing is another. You're basically saying that it's okay to use animations from people who've had decades of experience and practice to get to where they are now. And someone just takes that from you...

ANYWAY, this just really rubbed me the wrong way cause I'm highly against this sort of thing. It appears like the two effects mentioned were rotoscoped which just automatically raises concerns and it seems some of the more highly detailed ones are very close references using the same colour palette, composition, similar timing and shapes, but done by his own.. which is still kinda questionable. Just don't rotocope and don't reference so close that it literally looks like the original. Just use it as study guide and create your OWN animation. http://www.filz.us/view/ad0e5741-324/ (Couple examples of this... First one is a very close ref while the other two are rotoscoped)


Anyway, I was the one that told him that to improve his effects he should study how other people do it... I didn't know that he'd literally reference/trace it to that extent and incorporate it into his own animation. But I think he's learned that it's wrong now and won't do it again.. And I feel bad for saying it out. but I felt like it was necessary. It was a good animation and a lot of time was put into it I'm sure.. but you have to makes sure what you're doing is the right way of doing things.. And I guess it's just a stick animation so it's not a BIG deal.. but if you keep going down this path, it will become a serious issue especially since you're apparently already working as an animator.

But yeah, I won't say anything more about this.. so don't worry. but you could at least mention Takashi Hashimoto.. the guy which most of your references/traces were based off from. >__>

Before reading the comments, I could say this one was the best effects for an animation. Now, I'm not so sure.

Quote from Nanite

We'll see how this turns out after more investigation.

Miccool already cleared it up. End of story.

DK, great job, seriously jelly to the point of being hysterical. But, just make sure that you don't make the same mistake. Overall, great job!

Camila, it's cleared up now. You can now relax. lol

I still think it's better than mcwizard >:)
Haha it was pretty cool but it lacked the plot and follow through that mcwizard had. I'd give it like. 6/10. An animation should just be based solely off of one aspect of animation. The effects were cool but a lot of them had like eight different frames and the movements weren't the best. The artwork is nice. I actually enjoyed that a lot. You should work on an animation that is based on cinematic quality and plot, rather than effects. Something epic with a nice build up to get everyone excited. This had build up but ended right afterwards :/

Don't mind the haters dk, they're just jelly. The least. You should do is give him proper credit for this rather than feeling insulted or something. All these other jerks use peppers sound effects and feel like as long as they give him credit for them it's all good, regardless of if they make money or not.

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All these other jerks use peppers sound effects and feel like as long as they give him credit for them it's all good, regardless of if they make money or not.

That's not really the same thing at all. No one is saying "Oh, I made these sound effects." The fact that they're giving Pepper credit is all that really matters there. Pepper releases his work for free for anyone to use anyway. Danmark traced parts of his animation from a copyrighted source and made no mention through credits or otherwise until it was pointed out that he did so. He was allowing people to give him credit for something he didn't do and was just as happy not to correct them or notify them when commenting on effects he didn't make.

Quote from Jeff

Danmark traced parts of his animation from a copyrighted source and made no mention through credits or otherwise until it was pointed out that he did so. He was allowing people to give him credit for something he didn't do and was just as happy not to correct them or notify them when commenting on effects he didn't make.

Not trying to say any of this is wrong.
But technically, a few months before the release of this, he did tell his followers through DA that he would be practicing Anime inspired effects. Which he did.

Reference

Quote from Mikematic

Not trying to say any of this is wrong.
But technically, a few months before the release of this, he did tell his followers through DA that he would be practicing Anime inspired effects. Which he did.

Reference

Technically what? This doesn't excuse or prove anything. "I'm practicing Anime inspired effects" is not the same as "I'm going to trace this explosion in to my animation." You can trace for practice, that's fine, but the final result in an animation should be original based off of what you learned through that practice. Tracing an explosion into your animation isn't "practice", it's just stealing content.

Even though it's only "2 little explosions" I still find it a bit off putting to be paid money, for completely tracing someone elses thing and calling it yours. By not immediately saying "I traced these" but instead saying it was "inspiration" is still stealing. It may equal up to maybe a dollar worth of animation, but you're still taking credit for it. His opening section where he comes out the smoke is also copied from naruto the exact same scene. The front page should be fully original content. Inspiration does not cover copying things frame by frame.


No matter how small it is, stealing someones work should not be allowed. But this is my opinion.

I've been gone for a long time, and DK, I'm incredibly disappointed. You can't rotoscope for a final animation that you're getting paid for. You just can't do that. You know that you can't do that. It's wrong, full stop.

And Arch-Angel, I'm disappointed that you're so casual about it. You can't just pass over something as serious as this and pass it off as people being "jelly". SethX got BANNED before for rotoscoping. You cannot dismiss it. I've seen animators be pissed about their animation being taken away from them, even when there wasn't money involved. The amount of time and effort taken to make an anime is extreme, and taking that, and passing it as your own work is not just wrong but kind of sad.

I'm deeply, deeply disappointed with you DK and hope you won't do it again.
I'm more deeply disappointed with the people who are so causal about it.


It's stealing.