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I'd probably be cool with that, that or sending you on the 5 people shrine that requires two spies to fail the mission.

I'd be safer now. If I was a spy, I wouldn't fail the mission so early. It would just raise suspicion for me.

But the mission would fail, since one of you ( actually all of you :^) ) would want to put the blame on me for knowing you're spies. Which would prove my point.


EDIT: Am I the only one that thinks voting should be mandatory? It would keep more players active I feel.

The fact that its via PMs now means that it will have to be mandatory so, unexpected benefit for you Gyoh.

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Hey would you look at that. Nish is trying to get Zed in the next team as well.
I urge everyone to disapprove this team so we won't get caught up in the Nish's mind game from last time.

Also, would you people stop posting Knight PM's. Let's just say that Smile, Jellyfish, Nish and Devi ARE Knights. The spies know who the remaining two Knights are. Meaning their Don Gyoh now has a 50 fucking percent chance of still saving the game at the end.

I have no doubt now that you are working towards fucking up this again. You are taking clearly presented logical arguments and claiming they are Mind games. Are you actually saying that the Knights needs to stop asserting themselves?

Also, and I hope everyone pays attention to this... Gyo once again seems to be implying that we ( the rest of the Knights) believe that whoever posts a screenshot is innocent. That is not at all what anyone said. I was referring only to the timeframe within which it was posted. However, this is the 2nd or 3rd time that you have chosen to ignore the 'time' aspect of it and chosen to call everyone's attention to the screenshot issue.

Quote from Youwishjellyfish

If this shrine is a success then I'm cool with reusing Nish, Smile, and myself and anyone as the +1 but Devi. The reason I don't want Devi on the team is because if there is a Spy in the first shrine who doesn't fail the first shrine but does fail the second shrine, it would be very easy at this point to dump most of the suspicion on Devi much like how Golden had a huge amount of blame dumped on him last game. I think if anyone else goes in then all four players will be doubted, and we have a slightly higher chance of catching a Spy if they're there.

Both Devi and Gyo have presented themselves as high risk factors. So any spy hiding could fuck up a mission and it would be chalked up to them. Your example of Golden is especially pertinent given Gyo's rant. His double-triple-quadruple bluff strategy is only pointing fingers at him (so that he can point fingers at whoever points this out).

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Quote from Youwishjellyfish

I'd probably be cool with that, that or sending you on the 5 people shrine that requires two spies to fail the mission.

I think its too premature to decide this without seeing the results of the next two missions. Just my opinion.

Oh yeah one more thing sorry for bringing this up here, but I think its relevant for all parties involved: Devi is currently 1 infraction pt away from being banned for a week. I have already PM-ed the benches about this so they're ready to replace him if necessary.

Behave devi.

Quote from Nish

Both Devi and Gyo have presented themselves as high risk factors. So any spy hiding could fuck up a mission and it would be chalked up to them. Your example of Golden is especially pertinent given Gyo's rant. His double-triple-quadruple bluff strategy is only pointing fingers at him (so that he can point fingers at whoever points this out).
EDIT :
I think its too premature to decide this without seeing the results of the next two missions. Just my opinion.

Oh, of course. I'm more saying that Gyoh playing aggressively isn't enough to rule him out of future missions in my mind. I'm not a fan of him sprouting baseless claims but having an aggressive player sometimes has it's merits. But I agree, at the moment I think he's to high-risk for the first 4 player team and possibly the last 5 player team, and of course, all this is subject to change.

I'm really surprised at Gyo though. I don't believe for a moment that his surprisingly aggressive behavior is displaying a method behind the madness. Especially this early into the game.

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Since there is no point in not posting this due to that everyone thinks I am a spy and of course no one would ever think of me being the seer.

spoiler (Click to Show)

So there you guys frickin go.

Okay, I know I'm nitpicking right now and I know we've established that PM's aren't a reliable source, but your screen-shot has nothing on the page telling us this is you... You've scrolled down so we can't see your name in the top right corner...
You also seem to be PMing someone. I don't care so much about that, but if you feel like telling me who you can always PM me.

Update:

Smile's Team:

Nish
Youwishjellyfish
Smile


Approve: Everyone.
Disapprove: None.


Mission Start!

So Gyo voted yes too? Great.

Quote from Nish

So Gyo voted yes too? Great.

I bought your innocence

I was hoping the spies would dissapprove because they thought that with me they could prevent a majority vote

I guess it didn't work

Quote from Gyohdon

I was hoping the spies would dissapprove because they thought that with me they could prevent a majority vote

You thought you'd catch them in the act this early in the game? Just curious.

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I was expecting Ai to put himself in, unless he has a grander plan for which that would be a bad move.

So if the mission is a success, Nish, Smile, Jelly and me (?) are in the next mission.
If it's a failure, then other people besides Nish, Smile and jelly.

Though, I probably want to try out in a temple once.

Probable last post before having to choose teams.

I think Nish should still go. If what Smile said about the sample PMs not being up at the time of Nish's screen-shot was true, then I can only see one way that Nish's PM was a fake, and that involves Smile sending Nish the PM structure from the previous game and then Nish doing a whole lot of photoshopping. I find this highly unlikely, and I didn't see any mistakes around where the 'verifier' would have had to be shopped in, so I think Nish is still low-risk even if this shrine fails.

Me and Smile can't use the same excuse though. As soon as Nish's screen-shot went up it would have become very easy for someone to forge their PM's, so I'm fine with me and Smile being thrown into doubt.

As for a team I think Nish, Gyoh, Devi, Zed, or Ai could be some good candidates. I'm more proposing this team because we might be able to get some answers on some high-risk players, though, I do recognize this is a pretty high-risk team and if we're sending them in after a shrine fail we could very well end up with two back to back failures. Thoughts?

Quote from Youwishjellyfish

As for a team I think Nish, Gyoh, Devi, Zed, or Ai could be some good candidates. I'm more proposing this team because we might be able to get some answers on some high-risk players, though, I do recognize this is a pretty high-risk team and if we're sending them in after a shrine fail we could very well end up with two back to back failures. Thoughts?

That doesn't make sense. Why did you mix in low risk players with high risk players?

I consider them all high-risk players, except you (you're kinda neutral atm) and Nish, and basically you're in there because you're the leader this round.