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It's the same theory I had long ago; that, if you could disregard build time and gold and mana cost, 80 swords would beat any other unit combos or unit masses there are.

Mage+Wall
Albows+anything
Mage+Albows
Bomber+wings
Wings+marrowkai
Scorch
Airs
Cycloids

Need I go on?

Quote from FailingAtFailing

Massing units never works. If you want a decent combo, Speartons + Albowtrosses + Magikill + Giants + Merics. It's effective.

nah...shouldnt it be:

shadowrath + albows+ magikill+ guinats+ merics?

Quote from Wyrmspawn

It's the same theory I had long ago; that, if you could disregard build time and gold and mana cost, 80 swords would beat any other unit combos or unit masses there are.

I disagree, Cycloid Mass can stun chain any mass other than giants for an instant victory, and can shield up loads to have a chance against Giants, as spell casters benefit greatly from drawn out fights as they get to re cast spells. Enough cycloid mass and only a Medusa mass played by someone superhuman at clicking stone face could contest it.

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I disagree, Cycloid Mass can stun chain any mass other than giants for an instant victory, and can shield up loads to have a chance against Giants, as spell casters benefit greatly from drawn out fights as they get to re cast spells. Enough cycloid mass and only a Medusa mass played by someone superhuman at clicking stone face could contest it.

Agreed; although it may have worked to some extent during the age of order and chaos, elementals would easily rip through with cycloids; something that I hadn't considered.

kiting archers still kill cycloids.

They would kill OP's build though.

cycloids are so awesome and water eles with upgraded heal is so good >_< it heals ALL health bar to FULL HEALTH.

@failingatfailing
Thats a really good point. When they have really high damaging units (albows) I'll use spears instead of ninjas. Besides we've all had our ninja killed by electric wall and blast before. Just one thing. How many speartons should be sent per magikill?

Ninjas of course will still be used to harass in mid-early game and against giants spammers, but using spears against magikill/merics seems like a very good idea.

Quote from Saegon

Thats a really good point. When they have really high damaging units (albows) I'll use spears instead of ninjas. Besides we've all had our ninja killed by electric wall and blast before. Just one thing. How many speartons should be sent per magikill?

Ninjas of course will still be used to harass in mid-early game and against giants spammers, but using spears against magikill/merics seems like a very good idea.

I usually just have six Speartons that all focus on a single Magikill at a time.

Quote from Saegon

I'll use spears instead of ninjas. Besides we've all had our ninja killed by electric wall and blast before.

o_e

Looks like you two have a lot to learn.

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Use ninjas.

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@failingatfailing
Thats a really good point. When they have really high damaging units (albows) I'll use spears instead of ninjas. Besides we've all had our ninja killed by electric wall and blast before. Just one thing. How many speartons should be sent per magikill?

Ninjas of course will still be used to harass in mid-early game and against giants spammers, but using spears against magikill/merics seems like a very good idea.

Quote from FailingAtFailing

I usually just have six Speartons that all focus on a single Magikill at a time.

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o_e

Looks like you two have a lot to learn.

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Use ninjas.

If your ninjas are getting killed by magikills, then you're seriously using them wrong, and having spears against magikills are worse, because they're anti-mass for their explosion, poison spray, and electric wall. If you're fighting a mass of magikills with meric support by massing spears, you're gonna have a really bad time.

You can, t make 80 sword cuz the enemy won't give you time to make them.
Dont forget that some players (like me) are rushers so they will attack you from begging until the end.

Quote from xChamp1999

You can, t make 80 sword cuz the enemy won't give you time to make them.
Dont forget that some players (like me) are rushers so they will attack you from begging until the end.

And it would take a minimum of 16 minutes to make a full sword mass, while other units would take about a minimum of 8-10 minutes to make a full mass. So unless your opponent is incredibly illiterate, you're not gonna have time to make them.

Quote from Superterry

If your ninjas are getting killed by magikills, then you're seriously using them wrong, and having spears against magikills are worse, because they're anti-mass for their explosion, poison spray, and electric wall. If you're fighting a mass of magikills with meric support by massing spears, you're gonna have a really bad time.

This is literally the most colorful post I've ever seen on SP.

Quote from xChamp1999

You can, t make 80 sword cuz the enemy won't give you time to make them.
Dont forget that some players (like me) are rushers so they will attack you from begging until the end.

That's why sword mass is only semi-viable if the sword masser is slightly more skilled than other player.