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Sep 7, 2014 8:36 PM #1241140
This is the official Gladiators of Denvin thread. Please feel free to comment any opinions/suggestions and message any other inquiry about being involved with the show to my inbox. The first five or so pages of comments might not make sense as they refer to the original structure the project was following, which involved me recruiting animators to help me.

About Gladiators of Denvin
Gladiators of Denvin is a series/project that I am working on. It was originally going to be in limbo until I found more animators to help me, but now the project is continuing on by mostly just me. This will be an RHG-oriented series that will consist of six episodes, three of which will contain collaborations! The setting for this series is the city of Denvin (more about that below). This project WILL NOT BE RELEASED UNTIL all six episodes are finished completely. However, after each episode is fully animated I will release short teasers showcasing a brief bit of plot and mostly just revealing the project's progress.

[SIZE=4]What is Denvin?

[/SIZE]Denvin is a city on the island of Lisle, which is several days' sail to the west of the RHG clan islands. Lisle has a few other known settlements and cities, but the majority of the island remains unexplored by the Denvin residents. Denvin is occupied by thousands of civilians and the local defense garrison, the Denvin Guard. The Guard will be heavily involved in the storyline of this six-part series, and are closely associated with the RHG Push. Denvin is a decently large city (which lies behind an encompassing wall and other assorted defenses), and while certain structures rise high into the sky, Denvin goes far further underground. Most of the underground beyond the first few levels is out of The Guard's jurisdiction, and is home to mostly homeless, criminal, or animal lifeforms. It is rumored that no one has actually found the bottom of Denvin, as The Guard (and no sensible person) ever takes the time to explore the undercity deep enough.

Being a part of this project
I am animating the majority of this series myself, however, as I stated earlier, there will be three uniquely different collabs throughout this project. Any animator wanting to contribute to this project may enter unlimited entries in the collaborations to follow.

CONCEPTS & STUFFFFFF (I own this stuff. The weapons, characters, concepts, MINE.)
RHG Push (Click to Show)

Ferris, Captain Of The Guard (Click to Show)

Concept Art (Click to Show)

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Sep 7, 2014 9:06 PM #1241147
Although this does sound pretty interesting, it seems way too ambitious for what it is, and I have serious doubts almost anyone on this site could pull something like this. A lot of people have attempted to create some sort of series with RHG many times, but they never work.
Also, it's maybe best that you do have some sort of reputation as a decent and capable animator, since these massive projects aren't very convincing if the strings are being pulled by an unfamiliar face.
But if you think you can handle all the work and effort and time that goes into something like this, good luck.
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Sep 7, 2014 9:29 PM #1241152
I agree with what you're saying, and I did know that I would probably be greeted straight off with a warning from an older member. Just as a reassurance to others:

- I have managed regular animated series' before in the past years, but like I said, the fact that it was just me animating drug the project down. I believe that with multiple animators animating their own RHG's scenes it will help speed the project along.

- I understand that this account is new, but in no way am I new to Stickpage, RHG, or animating. The only thing I have to show at the moment is my RHG demo, but I'm working on another video of my RHG and a short promo demonstrating some of the wild creature concepts from the island of Denvin that will showcase my animation skill level a bit better. I was in the RHG league back on Fluidanims (in which I won one battle by opponent forfeit lol) for quite some time, before leaving RHG to start an original animated series (which obviously ended eventually).

- I'm not trying to whip up some collab in the next week, or month - I don't expect to be finished with this (IF anyone is on board and IF it even starts production) until 2015, probably around summer. So thank you for the reality check, yes, I agree it's terribly ambitious and the project might go totally belly-up, but I've wanted to create an animated series for years, and I believe that the RHG community is the perfect place to get the people to join me in doing so!

Thank you for your reply!
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Sep 7, 2014 9:38 PM #1241154
I'd help if I was like ya know...getting paid?
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Sep 7, 2014 9:45 PM #1241155
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I'd help if I was like ya know...getting paid?


Dude....I so wish. However I don't intend on attempting to make any money off of this (THAT would honestly be way too much ambition), so no.
I tried in the description to make it sound like people in the project wouldn't be constantly animating scenes for months on end, because they wouldn't. People would probably at a minimum only have to animate 2 to 4 fight scenes with their RHG (and any RHG battles they participate in or additional combat scenes if they really want to) over a several month period of time. I'm not trying to drop a giant list of animation homework on anyone who joins :p
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Sep 8, 2014 5:12 AM #1241319
I would totally be down to help! :3
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Sep 8, 2014 5:50 AM #1241326
My only question:

If I can't voice-act my RHG (since I'm a guy and Shiname is...) can I use video game voice clips instead? I have a metric ton of audio clips from Soul Calibur IV to BlazBlue ChronoPhantasma and a lot more.
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Sep 8, 2014 6:48 AM #1241341
It sounds awesome and I would love to help but alas I wouldn't be able to animate in flash if someone put a gun to my head (and I'm a clan leader also). It may be beneficial (to what I believe is a magnificent idea) if you pitch this idea to everyone again in 6-12 months when people know you and how good(or bad) you are at you work. Plus while all your reasoning is perfect from what I gather the RHG is not at all meant to have a cannon. Thus saying that only the people who fit into blank category can contribute for blank reason drastically decreases the number of people who can actually participate.(I'm pretty sure those last 2 sentences are right) Anywho I'm gonna keep an eye on this cause I wanna see how it goes(...ya know if ya don't take it down now and try again later)
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Sep 8, 2014 8:28 AM #1241360
Making a smaller collab is already hard, what more if it's much larger scale like a series.
And I agree with Charry, you need a good reputation to make people join you. You didn't even show us any of your works. How should people know you can pull off something big like this. Most people who would join this are probably beginners, That may be good if it will actually happen and make them improve but that means you will be sacrificing the quality of the series, which should mainly be the focus. The more experienced animators are busy doing their own animations, some are slacking off and would have no interest in this as they don't see it succeeding.
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Sep 8, 2014 8:58 AM #1241363
Your heart is in the right place, kid. Maybe even more than Mikematic. But you can't just join this place, have nothing under your belt, and do this.

Your assumptions are also incorrect. There have actually been tons of RHG Battles since the ones you've seen on youtube, it's just that none of them are particularly that good. Not to mention, the Internet is just another means to promote a niche part of an already niche hobby. This plan of yours is not so bad if the assumption was that everyone are instantPros like terk and geo, but 90% of this community are just kids and noobkids moreso. Your methods should be aimed towards development than promotion if you are serious about this.
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Sep 8, 2014 2:24 PM #1241419
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I would totally be down to help! :3

And have thusly proved to the naysayers that there are people who find this interesting xD keep your eye on this thread, more details about the show, along with promo videos and more on joining will be around soon enough.

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My only question:

If I can't voice-act my RHG (since I'm a guy and Shiname is...) can I use video game voice clips instead? I have a metric ton of audio clips from Soul Calibur IV to BlazBlue ChronoPhantasma and a lot more.

Maybe - only thing is there will be actual character-to-character dialogue...theoretically you could get through enough conversation scenes with game voice clips, but if not, I have a metric ton of voice actors :3
One thing I don't think I mentioned was that animators have a say in who voice acts their RHG! Once the show's further along and I'm almost ready to begin voice work I'll go over different voice actor auditions with the animators to find one who they think is right for their character!

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It sounds awesome and I would love to help but alas I wouldn't be able to animate in flash if someone put a gun to my head (and I'm a clan leader also). It may be beneficial (to what I believe is a magnificent idea) if you pitch this idea to everyone again in 6-12 months when people know you and how good(or bad) you are at you work. Plus while all your reasoning is perfect from what I gather the RHG is not at all meant to have a cannon. Thus saying that only the people who fit into blank category can contribute for blank reason drastically decreases the number of people who can actually participate.(I'm pretty sure those last 2 sentences are right) Anywho I'm gonna keep an eye on this cause I wanna see how it goes(...ya know if ya don't take it down now and try again later)


I see what you're saying - here's how in my mind - ideally, anyway - my order of actions would go:
- Start working on promo vids and write up info about Denvin.
- Post everything about the show and see peoples' initial reaction and continue to work on promo vids (where we are now)
- Continue to work on and post promo vids showcasing the concepts from my original world of Denvin and continue to get Stickpage's reaction.
- Eventually have enough people (honestly only around four to six or so) and begin actually making the show (I don't anticipate this to be for some while, I'm in no hurry :3)

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Making a smaller collab is already hard, what more if it's much larger scale like a series.
And I agree with Charry, you need a good reputation to make people join you. You didn't even show us any of your works. How should people know you can pull off something big like this. Most people who would join this are probably beginners, That may be good if it will actually happen and make them improve but that means you will be sacrificing the quality of the series, which should mainly be the focus. The more experienced animators are busy doing their own animations, some are slacking off and would have no interest in this as they don't see it succeeding.

Like I said above, I posted this to see an initial reaction towards the idea and setting of the show. I'm well into making 2 animations that are set in the world of Denvin, and will not only showcase a little bit more about the universe but additionally showcase my animation skill more. And honestly, unless you're talking about the PRO experienced animators (who are mostly all over at Hyun's Dojo), most of the experienced animators are in clans animating weeklies. A good percentage of the reason why I want to make this is because I feel that only the general Stickpage community participates in projects similar to this, while the RHG community never really seems to make any type of collab that involve their gladiators.


Quote from Hewitt
Your heart is in the right place, kid. Maybe even more than Mikematic. But you can't just join this place, have nothing under your belt, and do this.

Your assumptions are also incorrect. There have actually been tons of RHG Battles since the ones you've seen on youtube, it's just that none of them are particularly that good. Not to mention, the Internet is just another means to promote a niche part of an already niche hobby. This plan of yours is not so bad if the assumption was that everyone are instantPros like terk and geo, but 90% of this community are just kids and noobkids moreso. Your methods should be aimed towards development than promotion if you are serious about this.


Actually, I posted this a "promotion for development"...so xD, it's kinda both. I'm not trying to advertise it around when I honestly admit, yes, I have little animation showcase and nothing to show for this project yet. I wanted to see what peoples' general reaction to the idea of the CONCEPT of GoD, and from there I would see who's interested in joining after a promo or two have been released.
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Sep 9, 2014 12:56 AM #1241544
This has been said before, but maybe get back to us with some kind of representation of your work.
If it's quality and shows promise a lot more people might be interested in participating.
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Sep 9, 2014 4:08 AM #1241611
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This has been said before, but maybe get back to us with some kind of representation of your work.
If it's quality and shows promise a lot more people might be interested in participating.


Quotable quote: "Even virtually god-like animation cannot save a poor idea or dumb story." No matter how entertaining that could be to watch it wouldn't be the creation I'm trying to make. I didn't want to put a bunch of effort into promo videos only for people to say, "You animate good dude, but...yeah, this idea is reaaaally DUMB.." I've got a few people saying that they'd be interested in this, but just want to see me prove my skill as an animator. Ok! Great! That's exactly what I wanted to hear!
Quote from Rokon
It sounds awesome and I would love to help but alas I wouldn't be able to animate in flash if someone put a gun to my head
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Anywho I'm gonna keep an eye on this cause I wanna see how it goes



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I would totally be down to help! :3



Quote from Charry
Although this does sound pretty interesting,
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And dear God, even Hewitt had something positive to say :D

Quote from Hewitt
Your heart is in the right place, kid.


Of course most of these comments continue on to say that I'm not very established yet and that I don't have much animation to show. Yes, I know. Thank you for stating the obvious, even if very relevant. But I've heard what I wanted to hear: People like the idea, they just need something tangible to see before signing into some wall-of-text project with a guy who's been on the site a month. I WILL DELIVER. I am animating promo videos. Now that I know people want something to see, I shall provide them with it. I agree with everyone saying that there's nothing to see yet as I am not very established.
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Sep 11, 2014 8:06 AM #1242234
Saying they like the idea or it's good doesn't mean they're joining tho.
A good idea will get nowhere if no one is gonna work with it.
As said before, most people who'll join this will probably be the beginners which are the most active on this site.
More experienced animators are busy with their own thing.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do this, just don't expect to have really good animators working for this.
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Sep 11, 2014 11:01 AM #1242263
Quote from Xrebellion
Saying they like the idea or it's good doesn't mean they're joining tho.
A good idea will get nowhere if no one is gonna work with it.
As said before, most people who'll join this will probably be the beginners which are the most active on this site.
More experienced animators are busy with their own thing.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do this, just don't expect to have really good animators working for this.


This
Just because people think your idea is interesting doesn't mean they're interested in being a part of it. And what you said earlier isn't really true constant, I'd much rather watch a great animators shit ideas than a mediocre animators amazing concept with crap animation, which is why people have been stressing so much that you need to show us your work.
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