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May 15, 2014 9:21 AM #1195453
Hi NT

Aww, he's gone.
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May 15, 2014 9:37 AM #1195457
Hey Nish, what's up?

I just had one of the best days of my life.
I don't even know where to start.

I bought a punching bag, hell yeah. A way to practice my technique with actual physical resistance.
There's limits to what one can accomplish with just slow movement and dynamic resistance generated by ones own body.
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May 15, 2014 9:41 AM #1195458
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Don't sell your soul for free. Get some good weed in exchange for it. Wow, we did speak a long time ago. I started my own firm, it did well enough for me to invest the money back into moving to India where my firm now works with a much bigger production company (you may have heard of Lyca Mobiles in the UK, we're the Film Division of that company, Lyca Productions) on a very expensive Indian film. Almost got married along the way, and realized it wasn't for me.


I hear money buys weed these days, not sure if truth or?
Thats awesome man! Glad its all going well for ya.
Maybe it will become more for you as you grow old and wrinkly.
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May 15, 2014 9:43 AM #1195459
Don't knock on him just because he's old, bro.

He's the last of his species.
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May 15, 2014 10:11 AM #1195466
Anyone know how to really lose weight? I'm not really obese fat, I'm on the normal spectrum as far as my last BMI test went (btw I'm not looking for a debate whether BMI is a good measurement for healthiness), I'm just a little chubby. There are no clothes that will look good on me. They're always too big or too fit.

I don't want to get buff or muscular or whatever. I'm just looking to lose weight so I can feel comfortable on my clothes. I'm planning on starting a jogging routine when my 2-month break comes, but I don't know how frequent I should do it or how long I should keep running. Also, what other exercises should I do?

I'm also planning on having a proper diet, but I have no idea what a proper diet really is. How do I count calories? There are some websites that say how much calories a food has, I'm not sure how knowing them is important or how I should use the info. How much calories should I eat?


I'm asking here instead of googling because I trust you guys.
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May 15, 2014 10:22 AM #1195469
I could cram a thousand tips down your throat in a post, but that might not do you any good.

Yeah you need exercise, yeah you need a better diet.

But what you need is knowledge and it's all at your finger tips, if this is something you're serious about you should take it upon yourself to learn about these things and learn about how to decipher what is fact and what isn't.
Then you need to experiment with yourself, to find what works for you.
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May 15, 2014 10:50 AM #1195472
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I could cram a thousand tips down your throat in a post, but that might not do you any good.

Yeah you need exercise, yeah you need a better diet.

But what you need is knowledge and it's all at your finger tips, if this is something you're serious about you should take it upon yourself to learn about these things and learn about how to decipher what is fact and what isn't.
Then you need to experiment with yourself, to find what works for you.


Any starters to help me would be great. I tried to read some blogs and websites talking about this, but they're all huge walls of texts that expand on everything. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but I don't think I really need a very in-depth knowledge on fitness to achieve my goal. I just want to lose some weight and maybe pick-up on the lifestyle if I do end up liking it.
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May 15, 2014 11:27 AM #1195478
Eat healthier meals, don't snack on rubbish, aim to do atleast one form of physical activity per day whether it be running or bodyweight exercises.
It really shouldn't be hard to loose your little bit of winter coat if you want it enough.
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May 15, 2014 11:38 AM #1195480
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Eat healthier meals, don't snack on rubbish, aim to do atleast one form of physical activity per day whether it be running or bodyweight exercises.
It really shouldn't be hard to loose your little bit of winter coat if you want it enough.


That's the problem though. I know what healthy meals are, but which would be optimal for my goal? I've also started to stop eating junk food/candy/etc. and stopped drinking coke and pepsi (they really started to taste like acid when Firefly and Jutsu and Scarecrow pointed it out to be honest).

But I do plan on formally starting 2-weeks from now, because I think it would be way more difficult to figure out how to put exercising in my schedule as it is at the moment. Finals week is coming up, so trying to sneak in an hour for exercising would just stress me even more. After finals I can easily dedicate times of days on whatever it is I have planned.

I've made more research and it says it doesn't happen as quickly as I hoped for, so making these appointments a permanent part of my calendar just became more important.

Still, I've always hated how my body is for years now, and I think it's high time I actually do something about it.
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May 15, 2014 11:44 AM #1195482
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So, this is happening in australia.

The sick, the unemployed, the students, young people, and people with disabilities are all among the groups that are going to cop it to "fix" our (fictional) "budget crisis" (more like to secure the interests of the party presently running the country). Note that I fit in to all of these categories and am getting quintuply screwed over. Other groups copping it include the elderly, families, indigenous communities, small businesses, the environment, foreign countries in need of aid, public/independent broadcasting...

Meanwhile, defence forces, big pharmaceutical companies, and the mining industries get handed more money to roll around in.

"Oh, so you're not employed or in education? Well you're dead to us cunt" seems to be the major thing I'm taking away from the budget. But yeah, this was exactly what I expected them to do, though I am pretty pissy that they're are hitting people who need the money so hard while taxing the people with money an almost negligible. The fact that there's a petrol tax and that the mines seem to be exempt from it blows my mind.

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There is a name for this. It called "being in college".

Are you saying the expectation that my uni life would be exactly like every cliche college movie was far-fetched? Now I'm depressed as well as stressed...

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I currently don't life but would like to be able to lift.

First of all find some kind of exercise that you actually enjoy doing, if it feels like a chore you're going to lose all motivation after a week and nothing will change. For example I can't do jogs, I find them boring and tedious, but for some reason I enjoy walking my dog so I do that regularly. Try doing something with a group, it generally makes it funner, it also adds a bit of competitiveness to the whole thing which can be fun and push you a little bit more than being by yourself. Find a sport you like be it a team or by yourself and give it a fair go. Basically just find something that suits you that will boost how active you are, I hear 30min a day is a good amount but that seems a bit short to me...

Honestly though, join a gym, or at least try it out. Personally I think it's awesome, and regularly working out does wonders for my self confidence. When you get the point where you need to add more weight to something you feel like you're a god, when you hold a plank for 10 extra seconds you feel like the world is your bitch. And if you have that drive you're going to constantly improve. For me it really isn't about how I look but how it makes me feel, so find the exercise that gives you that feeling.
Also keep in mind that muscle is denser that fat, so doing some kind of weight training in addition to cardio is probably good, you won't 'lose' weight, but you will thin out.

I'm not really knowledgeable on diet, but replacing all/most liquids with water is a good start, cut obvious foods like chocolate, chips, fast food, and any of that stuff that everyone knows is bad (we all know but don't care), try eating less breads/rice/pasta (only if you think you're over eating these to start with), eat more fruits/vegetables, eat low fat meats like chicken and fish, protein is good but you really don't need that much of it, and maybe cut down on dairy (again, only if you're over eating).

This might take a judgement call on your behalf, but try not to over eat, if at the moment you feel fully and have a food baby after each meal you could probably reduce your portion size. Try eating less for a while, you may get hungry but just keep at it for a week and see if it slowly disappears as your stomach adjusts to the new meal sizes ( I am not telling you to starve yourself). Boredom eating is bad, don't do it. I also hear having a larger breakfast but a smaller dinner is a good thing.
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May 15, 2014 12:11 PM #1195486
I wouldn't call your summary accurate, but good enough I guess lol.

I think it would be cool to join a gym, but I can just see myself losing motivation to do it after a week. Also, there's no gym that's convenient for me to visit. I live very far from my school, so it takes me 2 hours total to commute back and forth from school. I'll be there for like 7-8 hours, and it would just eat off too much of my time to dedicate some time for gym. Playing sports seems fun, but honestly finding other people to play it with is a drag. I think jogging all alone every morning would suit me better, because to be honest I like seeing the streets be empty. I feel like that's something that I can do everyday, so I thought it would be nice to do it.

I really don't care about being buff, though.
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May 15, 2014 12:16 PM #1195488
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"Oh, so you're not employed or in education? Well you're dead to us cunt" seems to be the major thing I'm taking away from the budget. But yeah, this was exactly what I expected them to do, though I am pretty pissy that they're are hitting people who need the money so hard while taxing the people with money an almost negligible. The fact that there's a petrol tax and that the mines seem to be exempt from it blows my mind.


I'm pretty sure the logic here is that the poor can either save themselves or be damned to poverty for having no incentive to pick themselves up. Granted, it's not going to happen unless if the government invests in creating jobs for the poor...

On one hand, the mining sector does use a ton of petrol and really needs a long-term solution. On the other hand, they are producing more nonrenewable resources than they are consuming, and so could be seen as "paying their fair share.

And on another note, ABC news puts a spin on everything. You're likely only hearing one interpretation or side of the story. Ever really consider the justifications the other side may have?
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May 15, 2014 12:17 PM #1195489
Isn't just walking and moving counting as exercise? Tiny as hell, but nontheless, exercise. You actually burn 10 caleries litterally sitting and doing nothing. Exercising is for Celebrities.
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May 15, 2014 12:21 PM #1195491
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@Simle: Weight training =/= buff, and you don't have to go to a gym to do it. The amount of weight training you have to do to get a stereotypical body builder physique is insane, casually doing some weight training won't get you buff it will supplement your weight loss. Think about it, you do some push ups which uses energy, it tears your muscles which need energy to repair, as they repair they grow and start to become harder/denser which means they use more energy the next time you use them. So weight training really won't get you buff it will just tone and harden your muscles while assisting your cardio.

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I'm pretty sure the logic here is that the poor can either save themselves or be damned to poverty for having no incentive to pick themselves up. Granted, it's not going to happen unless if the government invests in creating jobs for the poor...

On one hand, the mining sector does use a ton of petrol and really needs a long-term solution. On the other hand, they are producing more nonrenewable resources than they are consuming, and so could be seen as "paying their fair share.

And on another note, ABC news puts a spin on everything. You're likely only hearing one interpretation or side of the story. Ever really consider the justifications the other side may have?

A single mother with three kids who is working 5 days a week and is reliant on Government handouts to support her family should take it upon herself to lift herself out of poverty? A student that has just finished uni can't find a job and are hit with the harsh reality that their degree is useless and no one will hire them when there is a cheaper alternative/there is no demand for their skill should have to tough it out because they brought this upon themselves? A middle aged man just got made redundant and can't find a new job because he has only ever learn one skill in his life and now it isn't needed should some how save himself while getting fucked with all his usual depts/expenses until he can find a new job?
These a people that aren't ripping off the system, they are ordinary people who have fallen on hard times, why should we make it harder by cutting their hand outs? Sure, I have nothing wrong with whipping the dero fuckers into shape, but not in a way that hurts the average joe.

The mining sector is also making a fuck load of money, they are literally digging it out of the ground, why are we need to hurt people who are already just scrapping by while turning a blind eye to the people that do have money. Yes, it will hurt them, it will most likely piss them off, but they do not need that money any more than the low income earner needs their. This is not fair anyway you look at it.

The ABC is a whole lot more legit than 7, NBN or 10...
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May 15, 2014 12:46 PM #1195496
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@Simle: Weight training =/= buff, and you don't have to go to a gym to do it. The amount of weight training you have to do to get a stereotypical body builder physique is insane, casually doing some weight training won't get you buff it will supplement your weight loss. Think about it, you do some push ups which uses energy, it tears your muscles which need energy to repair, as they repair they grow and start to become harder/denser which means they use more energy the next time you use them. So weight training really won't get you buff it will just tone and harden your muscles while assisting your cardio.


Ah I see. Even so, I still think I'll easily lose motivation. And I forgot to mention but I'd rather not spend money.

Still, my dad has some dumbbells lying around so maybe I'll try to hit that and see what happens.