Chat rules and ban appeals

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Mar 15, 2015 1:18 AM #1325943
Thanks for clearing it up for me rain.
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Mar 15, 2015 4:34 PM #1326238
OP edited to include all active chat mods for reference.
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May 7, 2015 4:10 AM #1358117
I understand I'm not supposed to put Non-SE related links in chat.
However, I just want to get something resolved. I've been banned twice recently for posting links pertaining to SE.
The first was Wyz's "Out of your mind" episode to explain g kiting.
The second was a replay.
The ban periods have expired, but I just want to know why posting SE related links validates a ban. Didn't it get agreed on that posting such things were allowed, as it was promoting SE? I was not spamming them either.
Plus, the whole point of replay links is to share them.
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May 7, 2015 8:23 AM #1358175
Quote from TheLegendofKaito
I understand I'm not supposed to put Non-SE related links in chat.
However, I just want to get something resolved. I've been banned twice recently for posting links pertaining to SE.
The first was Wyz's "Out of your mind" episode to explain g kiting.
The second was a replay.
The ban periods have expired, but I just want to know why posting SE related links validates a ban. Didn't it get agreed on that posting such things were allowed, as it was promoting SE? I was not spamming them either.
Plus, the whole point of replay links is to share them.


Who banned you?
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May 7, 2015 3:47 PM #1358314
Me.
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May 7, 2015 3:48 PM #1358316
I am not aware any mods are banning for sharing SE links.

If the duration is for ages next time tell me on enjin and I'll try to un ban you.
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May 8, 2015 3:49 PM #1358771
I ban for any link in chat. Don't want to risk someone phishing for passes from some fake link.
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May 8, 2015 3:51 PM #1358772
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I ban for any link in chat. Don't want to risk someone phishing for passes from some fake link.

You can't fake link on the SE chat because the chat is too basic and dumb to have a diff hyperlink from the one posted.
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May 9, 2015 8:55 PM #1359252
bitly still works
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May 9, 2015 9:58 PM #1359264
Has anyone actually seen fake linking? Also most of the immature people don't know keyboard shortcuts/link changing websites.
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May 10, 2015 9:12 AM #1359464
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bitly still works

Yeah I think we'd all ban for bitly links.
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Jun 10, 2015 8:47 PM #1371502
For the lols and stuff I now manage my own ban list spreadsheet, so you can look at the bans I've given and their type:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nUrDXFad3tKpGcX4E07QSDNUmRo8BD9CLJ27lu9nRNE/edit?usp=sharing
As far as I know I'm the only admin logging their bans now.
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Jun 22, 2015 12:48 AM #1374863
I was unjustly banned earlier today for flaming. Aseplayer obviously thinks that calling someone a "noob" or telling them "you suck" right after you beat them is flaming. Those words and phrases are healthy for a competitive game. Putting those words and phrases in the same category as racial slurs, threats and REAL personal attacks are absurd.

The fact is that Ase and I were both calling each other noobs before the match. After I won the match I told Ase that he suck and he decides to ban me for "flaming".

I do not think this game should have a mod who doesn't understand the rules and bans other players for his/her lack of competence of the rules.

I would like to give Ase the benefit of the doubt and assume he doesn't fully understand the rules but I simply cannot. I believe Ase does understand the rules but decides to twist and alter the rules, whenever he likes to fit his own personal agenda. This is an abuse of power and should be dealt with accordingly. I will post screenshots below.

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Jun 22, 2015 1:01 AM #1374864
Quote from ArchyBeatz
I was unjustly banned earlier today for flaming. Aseplayer obviously thinks that calling someone a "noob" or telling them "you suck" right after you beat them is flaming. Those words and phrases are healthy for a competitive game. Putting those words and phrases in the same category as racial slurs, threats and REAL personal attacks are absurd.

The fact is that Ase and I were both calling each other noobs before the match. After I won the match I told Ase that he suck and he decides to ban me for "flaming".

I do not think this game should have a mod who doesn't understand the rules and bans other players for his/her lack of competence of the rules.

I would like to give Ase the benefit of the doubt and assume he doesn't fully understand the rules but I simply cannot. I believe Ase does understand the rules but decides to twist and alter the rules, whenever he likes to fit his own personal agenda. This is an abuse of power and should be dealt with accordingly. I will post screenshots below.

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Alright first off, I didn't call you a noob before the game. Second, those bottom two screenshots are 4+ months old, it was from earlier, no need to bring in things that are in the past. I understand that you can say "you suck" and "noob" for fun as it's just a game, and it only appears as a very minor flame. The reason you were banned was because you spammed those phrases multiple times. At least 7+ times you called me a noob and you said "you suck" a couple of times. On top of this, you made alts to continue flaming other players. This turns into spam as you just repeated those messages over and over again. Let's be honest here, whenever you are banned, it's never really "unjustly" because you provoke the issue in the first place. I was considering unbanning you thinking I was too harsh for an hour ban, but then you brought in the alts, which is about 3 violations which made me decide to keep your ban there.

I haven't twisted the rules to fit my agenda here in this situation, as you can see. Some of these are minor problems you have created, however they stack up as a bannable offense.

There is always the off chance that perhaps someone else made an alt that had your name in it, to which I will take responsibility for my actions for not looking into it further. But alt dodging is not the way to go, you could of consulted me via pm, Stick Page PMS, or just made the post here before violating the rules again.

Kinda suspicious you don't provide screenys of what you did as well, which clearly shows that you have something to hide in this situation. My bad for not taking screen shots of your offences, that one is on me.

I do have however a chat with a witness who agrees you were in the wrong on this situation:

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If you maybe think you were misunderstood or don't know why you were banned, feel free to ask me, AsePlayer code 326.
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Jun 22, 2015 1:24 AM #1374873
Imo I have seen every thing and I can say that ArchyBeatz was saying you are a noob and you sucks .He was spamming he said that a lot and I think that spammers shall be banned from the chat and also his language is somehow rude in which you are not respecting the player and you are telling him noob and stuff like that so Ase didn't do something really wrong as I think when he banned him from the chat. I don't have a pictures as an evidence but I am saying the truth and you can ask other players not only me.