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I don't think point of view matters to be honest. The question was, "Is being gay wrong?" To answer that you have to look at what defines something as "being wrong". This is hard to do without taking in to account religion, so I agree that it should be looked at, but it's not the only deciding factor. It's not a matter of "well from this angle I am right, so therefore I am right." Religion is a broad term, and doesn't just describe christianity, as you seem to suggest. Plenty of religious cultures had no stance on homosexuality or even celebrated in some instances. These are still religions. It's not such a black and white subject.

I should have been more specific, from the point of view of Christianity, it is wrong. In terms of other religions, it varies as you have shown. Yes, religion is definitely not the only deciding factor, as I had stated before, there are a lot of factors such as upbringing, environment, social relations and interactions with other people, and many more. The thing I find most intriguing is how all of this is shoved into our faces in one way or another, and how the media wants us to think about it. Its in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer's_Phobia"]shows that we watch[/URL], advertisements, and is even joked about. Messages like these lead people to believe that the subject of gays is a joking matter, and then leads them to believe that it doesn't matter if you're gay or not, and that it's not wrong at all. So in today's society, I don't think majority of the people see it as wrong.

@AC, It's not that it doesn't, it's that it CAN'T. Scientifically proving why someone is gay or not would be extremely difficult because, as I've said, it all depends on the factors that influence that person. I also never stated that it was a choice, if you're a baby and you had gay parents, you see them every day, and would probably grow up thinking that being gay is okay because of that. I think it would be kind of a sub conscious influence. And I doubt that this will ever come to a conclusion, since religion and the P.C. world both have completely opposite views. We just went over this in my history class, it is almost impossible to come to a unanimous conclusion unless both parties are satisfied, which in this case with there only being the choices "right" and "wrong", would be very difficult for religion and the world to come to a conclusion on given their stances on the matter now.

Quote from Zaix

I should have been more specific, from the point of view of Christianity, it is wrong. In terms of other religions, it varies as you have shown. Yes, religion is definitely not the only deciding factor, as I had stated before, there are a lot of factors such as upbringing, environment, social relations and interactions with other people, and many more. The thing I find most intriguing is how all of this is shoved into our faces in one way or another, and how the media wants us to think about it. Its in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer's_Phobia"]shows that we watch[/URL], advertisements, and is even joked about. Messages like these lead people to believe that the subject of gays is a joking matter, and then leads them to believe that it doesn't matter if you're gay or not, and that it's not wrong at all. So in today's society, I don't think majority of the people see it as wrong.

@AC, It's not that it doesn't, it's that it CAN'T. Scientifically proving why someone is gay or not would be extremely difficult because, as I've said, it all depends on the factors that influence that person. I also never stated that it was a choice, if you're a baby and you had gay parents, you see them every day, and would probably grow up thinking that being gay is okay because of that. I think it would be kind of a sub conscious influence. And I doubt that this will ever come to a conclusion, since religion and the P.C. world both have completely opposite views. We just went over this in my history class, it is almost impossible to come to a unanimous conclusion unless both parties are satisfied, which in this case with there only being the choices "right" and "wrong", would be very difficult for religion and the world to come to a conclusion on given their stances on the matter now.

Well it's like the racial incident with black people in America, there will always be someone racist, thus there will always be someone who will oppose agreements. And it has already been scientifically proven, being gay is not a choice. I would explain, but you wouldn't be able to take it word from word since it wouldn't be accurate.

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perhaps it was misspoken then. every gay man ive seen was obviously corrupted and confused and since i haven't met every gay man my statement may have been false. with the mixture of seeing the fakey gays on tv and experiencing encounters with real gay men, i viewed it as a fact known by all that they were all perverted people looking for something new and kinky. its hardly admitted on this forum but theres a chance i couldve been wrong in this part of my argument.

I would fucking love if you would explain these encounters. You can tell these people are corrupted and confused just by meeting them?! Sounds like the only reason you decide this is because they are gay, not because they've actually done anything corrupt. Anyway feel free to prove me wrong by elaborating on your statement. I'd love oh so much for you to explain it.

The modern day says gay is wrong and evil
The past centuries say that gay is ok and it is art so as to lesbians

So I wish the past believing will be in the modern so that we can also respect gays
(I'm not telling I'm gay)

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The modern day says gay is wrong and evil
The past centuries say that gay is ok and it is art so as to lesbians

So I wish the past believing will be in the modern so that we can also respect gays
(I'm not telling I'm gay)

Sorry -- how old are you?

I'm christian, and in my opinion, being gay isn't wrong, and I can't see a part where the bible says is wrong either, I use a translation of the bible of my own church, that obviously changes in some parts, and also use another books to complement my knowledge, and I've came to the conclussion that the fact of being gay, puts to away from blesses that you could have by having a family.

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I'm christian, and in my opinion, being gay isn't wrong, and I can't see a part where the bible says is wrong either, I use a translation of the bible of my own church, that obviously changes in some parts, and also use another books to complement my knowledge, and I've came to the conclussion that the fact of being gay, puts to away from blesses that you could have by having a family.

I agree

Quote from _camila_

I'm christian, and in my opinion, being gay isn't wrong, and I can't see a part where the bible says is wrong either, I use a translation of the bible of my own church, that obviously changes in some parts, and also use another books to complement my knowledge, and I've came to the conclussion that the fact of being gay, puts to away from blesses that you could have by having a family.

The Bible has endured many changes and redirects ever since it's original writing; I used to practice Christianity, but noticed that this "Holy book", that all men and women of god must abide by, contradicted itself in many ways.
One of the big ones being the expression of free will, when there are(as zaix mentioned)many instances where the bible tells you what you can and cannot do;
As if "God" Keeps changing his mind.

To put this in terms of science.

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homosexuality is the product of the presence of too much estrogen in a male system. that is to say, there's a scientific reason for it

It isn't a product of the way human beings are supposed to function; Scientifically, it is wrong.

Morally

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people who are gay can't help it.

So it can be understood and socially accepted because you were born with this defect; It isn't morally wrong in my honest opinion.

"Defect" as if to imply it is outside what is considered "normal". I can't tell what points you're trying to raise exactly, but your line of thinking in that it's not the way humans are "supposed" to function is absolutely incorrect. Humans literally have millions of different possibilities to them, there is no set standard or normal. Claiming that sexual preference is defective if it's not hetero is like saying skin color is defective if it's not white, or hair color is defective if it's not blonde. Scientifically, homosexuality is as normal as any of the millions of different aspects that can go into a human. From the American Psychological Association:

The longstanding consensus of the behavioral and social sciences and the health and mental health professions is that homosexuality per se is a normal and positive variation of human sexual orientation.

Source

Yes the bible says homosexuality is a sin, but the bible also says not to judge anybody, since nobody has the right to... in that sense, i personally will not discriminate nor judge an individual that is homosexual and will treat them as i treat others.

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I'm christian, and in my opinion, being gay isn't wrong, and I can't see a part where the bible says is wrong either, I use a translation of the bible of my own church, that obviously changes in some parts, and also use another books to complement my knowledge, and I've came to the conclussion that the fact of being gay, puts to away from blesses that you could have by having a family.

well yeah the bible does not explicitly say that being gay is wrong, but there is an indirect reference that being gay is considered a sin in the bible. i don't remember the direct quote from the bible, but if you read the story about why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, the reference is made there. that's the only reference i think i know about the bibles opinion on being a homosexual.

Surely, religious would end up being the main debate as always. :I

I don't see being gay is a bad thing. Sure it gives me the creeps, but ONLY when the gay person I end up meeting goes way too close to me and stuff. Though I won't discriminate or hate. I'll just accept who they are and not end up being an asshole at the end. Simple as that.

If I were to put it in religious terms, sure it's a bad thing. But, at the same time, it says not to discriminate others of their beliefs or interests. So basically, it's the same thing as my first answer, but the "good-bad" thing is the opposite.

"God’s original intention for marriage is His final decision (Gen.1:27, 2:18-25). When God created a partner for Adam He created Eve - not another Adam. This means that perfect partnership requires some level of difference as well as a level of similarity so great that Adam could cry out loudly, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh". Sexual intimacy between a man and a woman is the normal method of male/female bonding (emotionally and physically) because it corresponds to the design of our bodies and because it is the normal means by which offspring are created.
"Being gay is a sin and shall not be accepted." ~Elder Greg.
Complete Bullshit.

Being gay is not wrong. But i understand the reason that being Gay is a sin. He did not create two Adams indeed.