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But why keep the duplication? How many copies can he make? You're not supposed to outnumber your opponent, that's a lesson burned inside me a looooong time ago. Well, yeah we have duo (and trio) RHG's but they complement one another as a team, not as an army.

Quote from Matthew Murphy

Duplication

-The amount of duplicated clones is limited to only 3 at a time and no more until all three shattered. As being made of the same principles of the light constructs- though tougher than the light weapons they still share the same weakness- projectiles.

You know that every ability I wrote has their weakness right?

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Also, why keep the light constructs? Wouldn't the intangible light trickery be enough already? Oh hang on, aright. [B]Fragile enough I see.

Do you mean "Fragile enough." or "'Fragile' enough." ?

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Guys before any form of CNC, please just answer the basic yes or no question: OP or Not

You know that they are either offline or asleep right? Just wait for them- I sent Visitor Messages.

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Majority Wins

You must've been the most impatient person I've ever 'seen' in my entire life.

He is bordering OP but just so.

Remove the Duplication. Why? Here's why.

Your gladiator can create illusions which are light based. You have a power that can solidify light. Same principle with duplication but without much sentience. This becomes a combination power and not an additional one.

Furthermore, solidification of light is powerful in its own right. Say, sunlight. You've trapped the enemy in it forever. You never specified what light he can control which is another point I have to push through. Specify. Say its the light generated only by your gladiator and it becomes alright.

Hallucinations are different from illusions; hallucinations are things from the mind while illusions are tricks of the eye. With light, you are more likely to produce illusions rather hallucinations with the latter produced by psychics/drugs/mental powers.

Illusory constructs of the gladiator that are completely solid are like duplication already but since they are mere illusions given solidity, they aren't your gladiator in the sense that they cannot use your powers. However, they are capable of wielding solidified light weapons which would give the illusion that they are in fact the gladiator when they aren't.

GuardianTempest, I'm not sure about that. My Bl.An.C. can summon ten attack drones simultaneously but of course they are limited to ten the entire match. So here is my proposition with Matthew, due to the mental strain of controlling more than one body, your character can control only 3 as stated in your duplication ability. In essence, your duplication ability is nerfed to a combination ability instead of an ability of its own.

This is my suggestion.

About the Healing and Super-Flare, they're extremely OP but as long as they are listed as never used moves within the arena and simply placed there as Notes, I'm sure it will be fine.

I've had the Solar Flare Bolter myself and the Splicer. Both weapons are OP but not listed as weapons in the usable roster. Just notes.

Until then, Matt, my answer is Nay.

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Your gladiator can create illusions which are light based. You have a power that can solidify light. Same principle with duplication but without much sentience. This becomes a combination power and not an additional one.

Actually, you are mistaken- he can solidify light, he isn't able to solidify illusions. The clones and the weapons though the same principle, but they differ from illusions. So, it will never be a combination power as I tried my best to make sure this doesn't go OP.

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Furthermore, solidification of light is powerful in its own right. Say, sunlight. You've trapped the enemy in it forever. You never specified what light he can control which is another point I have to push through. Specify. Say its the light generated only by your gladiator and it becomes alright.

Okay, he can trap the enemy in forever- actually it sounds more like suffocating the enemy in a vacuum space- but he also can't. The one thing he can't do, is kill.

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Illusory constructs of the gladiator that are completely solid are like duplication already but since they are mere illusions given solidity, they aren't your gladiator in the sense that they cannot use your powers. However, they are capable of wielding solidified light weapons which would give the illusion that they are in fact the gladiator when they aren't.

GuardianTempest, I'm not sure about that. My Bl.An.C. can summon ten attack drones simultaneously but of course they are limited to ten the entire match. So here is my proposition with Matthew, due to the mental strain of controlling more than one body, your character can control only 3 as stated in your duplication ability. In essence, your duplication ability is nerfed to a combination ability instead of an ability of its own.

Oh! Forgot to edit that one. The clones actually have mind of their own, so they aren't controlled. And what's a 'combination ability'?

Quote from ErrorBlender

This is my suggestion.

Thanks! :D

Quote from Matthew Murphy

Actually, you are mistaken- he can solidify light, he isn't able to solidify illusions. The clones and the weapons though the same principle, but they differ from illusions. So, it will never be a combination power as I tried my best to make sure this doesn't go OP.

What I'm trying to do here is remove your illusory ability and merge it with your Light Manipulation one. Tricks of the light, if you will.

Quote from Matthew Murphy

Okay, he can trap the enemy in forever- actually it sounds more like suffocating the enemy in a vacuum space- but he also can't. The one thing he can't do, is kill.

You acknowledge that he can trap people in his light. How difficult would breaking away from it be? How strong is it? Stickronium, correct? How hard is Stickronium? [I only read abilities and weaknesses, so there.]

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Oh! Forgot to edit that one. The clones actually have mind of their own, so they aren't controlled. And what's a 'combination ability'?

Thanks! :D

Combination abilities are two powers/skills used in unison to mimic or produce a different power. As I said before, I am trying to eliminate the Duplication ability through this way but still have it present although nerfed to an extent.

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You must've been the most impatient person I've ever 'seen' in my entire life.

Says the guy who had to PM and VM everyone he knew the moment he updated his wRHG

Quote from ErrorBlender

What I'm trying to do here is remove your illusory ability and merge it with your Light Manipulation one. Tricks of the light, if you will.

Oh! Okay then. Thanks! :D

Quote from ErrorBlender

You acknowledge that he can trap people in his light. How difficult would breaking away from it be? How strong is it? Stickronium, correct? How hard is Stickronium? [I only read abilities and weaknesses, so there.]

Actually, it wouldn't be hard for projectile weapons-based character to shatter, but sword and missiles will do (missiles are your type). Btw, the trap would have to be held by Murphy's hands go as hard as Stickronium, otherwise, it's just as weak as the other light constructs. And Stickronium- you know 'bout adamantium and vibranium? And also titanium alloy? You mix them up, and times their toughness by 10 :D

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Combination abilities are two powers/skills used in unison to mimic or produce a different power. As I said before, I am trying to eliminate the Duplication ability through this way but still have it present although nerfed to an extent.

Never thought of that before! However, nerfed to what extent? Do suggest.

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Says the guy who had to PM and VM everyone he knew the moment he updated his wRHG

You are the one who started this "Who thinks he's OP say 'Aye'" freakshow. So, those who were dragged into it- iarentevel, devi, ErrorBlender and GT- would have to undo what you started. They^ are the victims of your verdict. Good day to you, Hewitt! :D

NOTE: On the phone now, don't expect me to respond fast.

Since Matthew's wRHG is getting CNC'd, would all of you guys like to pull apart Venox and Nightwing once you're all finished with Murphy Gray?

I'd really like to tone down any possible OP-ness, which was obvious in my last few wRHGs.

Vamprina (lacked proper weaknesses)
Volt (no list of electric powers, everything lighting-based is legal!)
Spune (he can scoop anything out of the environment and throw it at an enemy? Anything?)
Raylar (with my MIND I will destroy all who oppose me)

There's still a few things I don't like about this character.

Out of all of his weaknesses; his biggest weakness is ranged weapons, why are ranged weapons stronger than melee?
You said ranged weapons break his light constructs faster than anything else, WHY?
WHY are ranged weapons stronger?

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There's still a few things I don't like about this character.

Out of all of his weaknesses; his biggest weakness is ranged weapons, why are ranged weapons stronger than melee?
You said ranged weapons break his light constructs faster than anything else, WHY?
WHY are ranged weapons stronger?

Should I change 'projectiles' to 'sharp object'?

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Matthew, I still feel as if Murphy is edging out just a little bit too hard. While his power already took a huge cut, it's still phenomenal. I honestly doubt if you need teleportation AT ALL (Speaking of which, teleportation can be considered one of the strongest abilities a character has, and honestly a character with teleportation alone is already quite strong). So yeah, still OP.

It's funny actually. I listed all the abilities a light manipulater could have and narrowed it down. Not to mention, before I put teleportation, it was omnipresence. Since light is almost everywhere, he could travel here and there with no trouble. But fine then, I'll remove the teleportation :D

Note: On mah phone

Wonderful, at this rate people can sustain a direct fight without suffering permanent trauma or something.

Quote from Matthew Murphy

Should I change 'projectiles' to 'sharp object'?

Not a bad idea. I await more responses tho.

It's funny actually. I listed all the abilities a light manipulater could have and narrowed it down. Not to mention, before I put teleportation, it was omnipresence. Since light is almost everywhere, he could travel here and there with no trouble. But fine then, I'll remove the teleportation :D

But here's the thing: Light manipulators manipulate the light around him, this one is more of a lesser god and he can turn into his own element.

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You are the one who started this "Who thinks he's OP say 'Aye'" freakshow. So, those who were dragged into it- iarentevel, devi, ErrorBlender and GT- would have to undo what you started. They^ are the victims of your verdict. Good day to you, Hewitt! :D

I have done nothing but allow the people of this community to say what they want. Do you honestly think they are shackled by wasting their time on you all because I decided to voice my opinion? Do you honestly think they're only doing this because I told them to? They're CNC-ing you not because I arranged this. They're doing it because they want to help you. They wouldn't be in agreement with me if they also didn't think you're OP.

And you are OP.

If anyone would like to stop coaching Matthew and concede to his creation, please say so right now. Nobody is stopping anyone.

Quote from Matthew Murphy

Should I change 'projectiles' to 'sharp object'?

There's still the problem of "What if the enemy has no sharp weapons."
Then he could create an armor of light (since he can create anything) and their blunt force would never even hurt him.
The character should still be beatable through any means, just be easier to beat through the "Weakness".
It shouldn't just be unbreakable while in contact with him.
How about; it's weaker the larger the item. if it's a large item it's easier to break?
That way he could still have a good durable item and still be beatable if he stretched the light into something like armor

Quote from iarentevel

There's still the problem of "What if the enemy has no sharp weapons."
Then he could create an armor of light (since he can create anything) and their blunt force would never even hurt him.
The character should still be beatable through any means, just be easier to beat through the "Weakness".

Uhm, the term weakness is "a disadvantage"; sharp objects are just what these constructs are weak against, it's just tougher to blunt force, not invincible- you can still break them with enough force. These constructs have the same principle of a bulletproof glass, blunt weapons or fist can still break it, but at a slower rate compared to sharp objects ;D

Now, about the armour... I actually never thought of that before :D But as mentioned as above^, it can still break.

Quote from iarentevel

It shouldn't just be unbreakable while in contact with him.
How about; it's weaker the larger the item. if it's a large item it's easier to break?

It should actually, I mean, I wouldn't want my gladiator to wield a weapon that will break in the middle of a fight... Besides, even if it breaks, what's to stop him from summoning it again the instant it breaks?

Size actually doesn't matter, it's the volume that matters. So I can't use size to tweak the toughness if you get what I mean.

Update 0.1.1

-Edited Abilities
-Replaced Teleportation
-Edited Weaknesses
-Tweaked Solidify Light Construct's weakness

Quote from Matthew Murphy

Uhm, the term weakness is "a disadvantage"; sharp objects are just what these constructs are weak against, it's just tougher to blunt force, not invincible- you can still break them with enough force. These constructs have the same principle of a bulletproof glass, blunt weapons or fist can still break it, but at a slower rate compared to sharp objects ;D

The problem is, you said this stickronium stuff contains the toughness of titanium alloy, vibranium (idk wat that is lol), and adamantium multiplied by 10.
The only thing that can cut through adamantium alone is super heated admantium, so no, nothing blunt could touch your constructs.

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And Stickronium- you know 'bout adamantium and vibranium? And also titanium alloy? You mix them up, and times their toughness by 10 :D